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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:00 PM Aug 2013

Michael Hastings' widow: 'It was just a really tragic accident'

Thankfully Michael Hastings' widow isn't wearing the tinfoil like so many keyboard detectives on the internetz.

How long before the conspiracy theorists say she was in on it?

Oh, you know it's coming.

Michael Hastings' widow: 'It was just a really tragic accident'

The widow of Michael Hastings -- the journalist whose reporting led to the resignation of the top U.S. general in Afghanistan -- is calling his fatal crash in Los Angeles a “really tragic accident.”

In her first nationally televised interview since her husband’s death on June 18, Elise Jordan told CNN’s Piers Morgan on Monday that she didn’t “really have anything to add” to the ongoing police investigation into the fiery single-car crash in Hollywood that took her husband’s life.

“You know, my gut here, was that it was just a really tragic accident, and I’m very unlucky, and the world was very unlucky,” Jordan said.

Hastings died when his Mercedes crashed on Highland Avenue near Melrose Avenue. The Los Angeles Police Department said there were no signs of foul play, and the L.A. County coroner continues to investigate.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-michael-hastings-widow-20130807,0,891165.story
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Michael Hastings' widow: 'It was just a really tragic accident' (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 OP
Or janlyn Aug 2013 #1
The government 'has the ability' to get rid of someone? randome Aug 2013 #5
Sometimes shit just happens. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #2
Sounds like some of the RW still trying blame Vince Foster's death on the Clintons. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #3
The wife said it. So it must be true. Yeah? Lint Head Aug 2013 #4
She just might have "known" that Hastings has a substance abuse history. MADem Aug 2013 #27
Bullshit. Sorry...but not buyin' it. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #6
An LMD. It looks like her. It talks like her. It even smells like her! randome Aug 2013 #8
she would know if he was a speeder. pansypoo53219 Aug 2013 #7
Exactly. Jacoby365 Aug 2013 #10
Yup Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #13
Occam's Razor. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #9
And explanations are very simple when you dont know the facts. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #17
Everyone has a price. sagat Aug 2013 #11
That's a horrible way to die.. wonder why he was going so fast as to hit a palm tree? Cha Aug 2013 #12
OMG! extraterrestrials have snatched her away and substituted a shape-shifter! struggle4progress Aug 2013 #14
LOL struggle Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #16
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #15
I never thought it was anything other than an accident. sufrommich Aug 2013 #18
Yes life can be simple if you are narrow focused. But how un-Democratic to rhett o rick Aug 2013 #19
Skepticism should be backed up by some form of evidence mythology Aug 2013 #22
There is a big difference between being skeptical and leaping to conclusions. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #24
LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #23
Unfortunately this is an exposure Hutzpa Aug 2013 #20
"She was probably planted." Like this?: msanthrope Aug 2013 #26
R#10 & K for, thanks and condolences to an honest person n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #21
The toxiclogy report should be out soon. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #25
Won't matter much to the CT'ers jeff47 Aug 2013 #28
yeah, the government toxicology report arely staircase Aug 2013 #29
Any idea when it will be released? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #30
6 to 8 weeks*** for a full report, but no doubt the preliminary is done, as is msanthrope Aug 2013 #31
I agree with Michael Hasting's wife-"It was a really tragic accident" that occurred.. midnight Aug 2013 #32

janlyn

(735 posts)
1. Or
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:16 PM
Aug 2013

The Feds have got to her, and threatened her and her family! And yet.......... somehow I am not

At this point I am not sure what to believe. I don't want to think the people who believe our government was behind it, are crazy. Because I do think our government would certainly have the ability to get rid of someone if they wanted.
Do I think in this particular instance, they were responsible? No, there is no evidence to suggest. But I always go back to my grandmother telling me that no one wanted to believe the german government was capable of doing the things they did to their own citizens. And that people poked fun at those that believed they were. And that of course eventually, you dare not speak against them at all.

So I always take these things with a grain of salt.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. The government 'has the ability' to get rid of someone?
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 11:02 PM
Aug 2013

Guess what? So do I. So do you.

But I sleep at night without a tinfoil nightcap.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
2. Sometimes shit just happens.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:20 PM
Aug 2013

The government does enough shady shit that we don't need to try to link Hastings' death to them.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Sounds like some of the RW still trying blame Vince Foster's death on the Clintons.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:56 PM
Aug 2013

Sometimes things just happen, the libertarian bunch and GOP does enough of this and we don't need the conspiracy group running this game also.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
4. The wife said it. So it must be true. Yeah?
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:56 PM
Aug 2013

OK.....She should know. Right? Wife? Know? Right? Exploding. Speeding. Incinerated. That's a wife thing. Right? Nothing to it. No agenda. No one had any reason to do that. No reason at all.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. She just might have "known" that Hastings has a substance abuse history.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 11:56 AM
Aug 2013

That's not fiction, and that has been documented. Supposedly, he was on the wagon.

If you want to play the "some people say" game, well, "some people say" he'd been smoking up a little of that crackish stuff before he put the hammer down.

Is it true? Who knows? Probably not, but so long as we're idly speculating about nefarious gubmint guys and complicated plots, why not go down this road, too? After all, someone on the INTERNET said it....so let's get all WOOWOO about that!

Here's Hastings' "crack" journalism:


http://trueslant.com/michaelhastings/2010/02/09/my-advice-to-journalists-smoke-crack-twitter-occasionally/

My advice to journalists: Smoke crack, Twitter occasionally


...The best line in The New Yorker post is when Packer admits to living a crack-free lifestyle. (“I haven’t used crack, either,” he writes.) Well, I have smoked crack. I recommend it for all writers to try at least once, especially to New Yorker staffers. It’s pretty good–it’s crack, after all–and down the crack pipe went my first semester at college. But torching a crack rock is very different from typing a Tweet.

For what it’s worth, I’ve always thought that blogging, not Twittering, was the media version of crack. Metaphorically speaking: I get an intense high from instantly publishing, but the minute I stop, I get a kind of an empty and anxious feeling, as if I’ve just poured part of my soul into a spiritual void. I stopped smoking crack ten years ago–it got a little out of hand– but I have come to terms with blogging. It’s healthy as long as I don’t allow it to totally consume me.


Sometimes people do stupid things, like drive too fast on invitingly empty streets in the wee, small hours of the morning. And sometimes, when they do that, they get in horrific auto crashes. It happens.
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. Bullshit. Sorry...but not buyin' it.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 11:04 PM
Aug 2013

Clearly Obama kidnapped his girlfriend and replaced her with some government-controlled robot.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. An LMD. It looks like her. It talks like her. It even smells like her!
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 11:07 PM
Aug 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

Cha

(297,123 posts)
12. That's a horrible way to die.. wonder why he was going so fast as to hit a palm tree?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:04 AM
Aug 2013

I'd think a Mercedes could handle? Sad to die so young.

snip//

LAPD traffic investigators found the motor of the late-model Mercedes-Benz C250 coupe involved in the accident about 100 feet away from the car, the Weekly has learned, a clue that would indicate the vehicle was traveling at more than 60 miles an hour when it apparently veered out of control and struck a palm tree:

That's according to the expert estimation of Harry B. Ryon, a former LAPD officer who now runs his own private accident-investigation firm in Scottsdale, Ariz.

The engine's location is evidence that the driver "was hauling Irish ass and lost control," Ryon told us:

With the engine torn off, the gas lines would rupture and it would start a fire.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/06/michael_hastings_crash_engine_flew_speeding_recovery.php

thanks for the article, Cali

struggle4progress

(118,274 posts)
14. OMG! extraterrestrials have snatched her away and substituted a shape-shifter!
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:56 PM
Aug 2013

It's well-established that Obama pulled Hastings' car into that tree with a tractor beam

But this cover-up won't last! There are literally dozens of anonymous people, with first-hand knowledge of the operation, who just are too terrified to testify! Word is getting out!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. Yes life can be simple if you are narrow focused. But how un-Democratic to
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 08:03 PM
Aug 2013

deride and ridicule skepticism. What are you afraid of? The Truth?

For some rationalization is the key to happiness.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
22. Skepticism should be backed up by some form of evidence
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:53 PM
Aug 2013

Internet speculation isn't actually proof. If the speculators had waited to see the police report, to see what his wife said, and then come up with some counter theory that better explains the evidence it would be one thing. But instead some instantly leaped to conclusions and won't reconsider based on additional information.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
24. There is a big difference between being skeptical and leaping to conclusions.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:43 AM
Aug 2013

Seems you are asking us not to speculate but trust the authorities like good minions. That's not very Democratic.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
20. Unfortunately this is an exposure
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 08:39 PM
Aug 2013

to her complete ignorance and she is not alone, there are a certain percentage of Americans who thinks our government does not engage in this type of espionage.

It could also mean she was probably planted.

Who knows.

Like Mr. T said "I pity the fool"

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. Won't matter much to the CT'ers
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 12:15 PM
Aug 2013

If it shows anything in his system, it's either a lie or he was drugged by the evil government.

If it shows nothing in his system, it's proof that his car was tampered with.

The nice part of conspiracy theories is you can make every result fit so nicely.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
30. Any idea when it will be released?
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:45 PM
Aug 2013

interesting how his wife is not engaging in any conspiracy theory talk.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
31. 6 to 8 weeks*** for a full report, but no doubt the preliminary is done, as is
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:50 PM
Aug 2013

the autopsy report, pending final toxicology.

***from autopsy.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
32. I agree with Michael Hasting's wife-"It was a really tragic accident" that occurred..
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 02:22 PM
Aug 2013

This tragedy comes right after notifying friends that he was being investigated by the FBI and that he was onto something big... His wife's words are spot on....

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