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babylonsister

(171,104 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:37 PM Aug 2013

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher: “Earth’s Round Shape Totally Bogus”

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher: “Earth’s Round Shape Totally Bogus”


Speaking at a local Town Hall recently, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher made a splash when told the audience there, “Just so you’ll know, global warming is a total fraud and it’s being designed because what you’ve got is you’ve got liberals who get elected at the local level want state government to do the work and let them make the decisions. Then, at the state level, they want the federal government to do it. And at the federal government, they want to create global government to control all of our lives.”

Finally a Republican has the guts to say what we’ve all been thinking — the mountains of climate science as well as the very obvious anecdotal evidence of out of control wildfire and “historical” level tropical storms happening at least two or three times a year now — are just more liberal big government conspiracies! Forget that we can literally observe our own climate changing. Forget that we can just look at historical climate and temperature patterns over the last hundred years and easily identify alarming trends. Forget even that the polar ice caps are melting at such as a rate as to start impacting the feeding habits of polar bears. It’s all bullshit, and finally Rep. Dana Rohrabacher has the guts to tell us all to ignore our own eyes and ears and just listen to his words. Because he is speaking the truth, and actual scientists are clearly making stuff up.

But if you thought Rohrabacher — who is a member of the House Science Committee — was brave to call global warming the liberal conspiracy that it obviously it is, then you’re going to love what he said when the cameras turned off. “It’s not just global warming that’s total lies by the way, Earth’s round shape? Totally bogus, too,” Rohrabacher said after requesting all recording devices be turned off. Luckily for us, the Chute had someone embedded in the town hall meeting and she kept her pocket recorder going the whole time.

“You see, John F. Kennedy was a democrat. A liberal Democrat at that. His whole “race to the moon” program was just a thinly-veiled attempt by the government to continue the false narrative that the Earth is round.” Rohrbacher then produced a large, flat map of the earth. “You see? We’ve known it forever and ever! Why would cartographers lie about the shape of the Earth? It’s right here, in front of us! The Earth is very clearly a two-dimensional, flat plane. But it doesn’t fit the liberal agenda for there to be actual boundaries on anything, much less the Earth’s land and sea lines, so they all got together a few centuries ago at Barack Obama’s house — he was alive back then because as we all know he’s an evil Communist Kenyan cyborg from the future sent here from George Soros’ clone to kill us all — and they decided to make the Earth round to fit their narrative that there are endless possibilities for everyone and no one should be afraid to challenge the established paradigms of the time.”

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Enrique

(27,461 posts)
4. what Rohrabacher really said is the standard GOP position
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:51 PM
Aug 2013

I'm not being snarky, I'm not getting off a cheap shot at the GOP, someone correct me if this is not factual, but isn't that what anyone would expect a Republican congressman to say? If I remember the 2012 GOP debates correctly, all the candidates tried to outdo each other in denying global warming.

There have been a few dissenters and those are newsworthy, and they get blasted by their base. Does anyone have any reason to expect Rohrabacher would be one of those dissenters standing up to the base?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. There *was* a conservative who said she "didn't know" if the Earth was round
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:58 PM
Aug 2013

or flat.

It was on the "View".

I guess she was blindsided by the question and hadn't been briefed with a talking point.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
6. It is true that the Earth is not round.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 03:01 PM
Aug 2013

Strange but True: Earth Is Not Round

Scientific American


As countless photos from space can attest, Earth is round—the "Blue Marble," as astronauts have affectionately dubbed it. Appearances, however, can be deceiving. Planet Earth is not, in fact, perfectly round.

This is not to say Earth is flat. Well before Columbus sailed the ocean blue, Aristotle and other ancient Greek scholars proposed that Earth was round. This was based on a number of observations, such as the fact that departing ships not only appeared smaller as they sailed away but also seemed to sink into the horizon, as one might expect if sailing across a ball says geographer Bill Carstensen of Virginia Tech in Blacksburg.

Isaac Newton first proposed that Earth was not perfectly round. Instead, he suggested it was an oblate spheroid—a sphere that is squashed at its poles and swollen at the equator. He was correct and, because of this bulge, the distance from Earth's center to sea level is roughly 21 kilometers (13 miles) greater at the equator than at the poles.

Instead of Earth being like a spinning top made of steel, explains geologist Vic Baker at the University of Arizona in Tucson it has "a bit of plasticity that allows the shape to deform very slightly. The effect would be similar to spinning a bit of Silly Putty, though Earth's plasticity is much, much less than that of the silicone plastic clay so familiar to children."

Our globe, however, is not even a perfect oblate spheroid, because mass is distributed unevenly within the planet. The greater a concentration of mass is, the stronger its gravitational pull, "creating bumps around the globe," says geologist Joe Meert at the University of Florida in Gainesville.

Earth's shape also changes over time due to a menagerie of other dynamic factors. Mass shifts around inside the planet, altering those gravitational anomalies. Mountains and valleys emerge and disappear due to plate tectonics. Occasionally meteors crater the surface. And the gravitational pull of the moon and sun not only cause ocean and atmospheric tides but earth tides as well.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earth-is-not-round

Igel

(35,383 posts)
9. Careful, there.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:35 PM
Aug 2013

Otherwise you'll be dubbed one of those anti-Obama oblate-Earther sockpuppets.

Because a (R) said the Earth is not round, therefore it must be, beyond all reasonable doubt, perfectly spherical.


I do take issue with the "totally bogus" part, though. Yeah, it's not a perfect sphere. But for most things it's close enough.

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