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In 2008, candidate Barack Obama suggested that his administration would be one of the most transparent in history. Concerning the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP), however, this could not be further from the truth. What has been revealed about this agreement is very distressing. The Investor-State Dispute Settlement section allows multinational corporations to sue local, state and national governments should their laws change unfavorably to their business. This is problematic for a variety of reasons, placing buy local, environmental and health campaigns and policies under threat.
As an example, if Buffalo were to promote a buy local campaign, the city could be subject to a lawsuit preventing that. In terms of health care, the TPP could prevent Medicare and Medicaid from negotiating lower prices on generic medicine, requiring seniors and ill individuals to purchase full-priced manufacturer-direct medicine.
The TPP would also take a bite out of job creation. Like NAFTA, elimination of trade barriers has sent jobs overseas, where production costs are far lower. This is because safety, environmental and health regulations are loose enough to allow complete exploitation and fewer worker protections. The TPP would also prevent these countries from enacting those protections we take for granted, guaranteeing cheap labor.
The only way this agreement will pass is through fast-tracking. Developed during the Nixon era, its a way for presidents to push through harmful trade agreements without any input from Congress. It has been used to slowly chip away at American rights and sovereignty for the last 50 years, but is no longer in place. When the administration comes to ask Congress for this authority once more, it should reject it wholeheartedly. We should not forfeit our rights and our government to multinational corporations. It is a terrible bargain.
http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130813/OPINION/130819730/1074
djean111
(14,255 posts)Is it one of those, well, let's put the thing in place and see what is in it, and Obama can do no wrong so it must be a GOOD thing cases?
There can't be any oh, he is weak because of Congress bullshit, this will be fast tracked. Funny how that works.
Now, there's a leak that will hurt Dem election chances - the actual contents of the TPP, not just a vague feel-good website.
cali
(114,904 posts)and I have seen spin on the TPP.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Now, that is true dedication.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Good morning Cali
You rock as an advocate. Why do you think there's a good chance it won't pass? I've been discouraged at how little attention this is getting, especially from labor. The Teamsters are a major exception.
I can't say one way or the other but I haven't been on it like you have. Why do you think it might not pass? Give me some good news in the morning please
cali
(114,904 posts)There's an odd coalition forming in the House. Some writer referred to it as a "Baptists and Bootleggers" coalition. It's comprised of teabagger types and liberal dems. The teabaggers just won't vote for anything that President Obama wants and the liberal dems won't vote for it because they oppose the TPP. A group of new dems wrote a letter to Pelosi, and they aren't the only ones opposing it.
so here it is, my dear, our good news for the day.
The Odd Bipartisan Coalition That Could Sink Obama's Free-Trade Legacy
Executive-power-wary Tea Partiers and labor-aligned Democrats could block "fast-track" authority for two huge agreements.
Back when he was first seeking the Democratic Party's nomination for president, Barack Obama often questioned free-trade agreements like NAFTA. By the end of his first year in office, however, President Obama had already notified Congress that the U.S. would join Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free-trade negotiations. In October 2011 -- albeit with considerable prodding from Republicans -- he submitted free-trade agreements negotiated by the Bush Administration with Colombia, Panama, and South Korea to Congress. During this year's State of the Union address, Obama reaffirmed his commitment to the TPP, and announced that the U.S. would also pursue a Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) free-trade agreement with EU countries.
The sheer scope of these deals is staggering. The TPP negotiations now include Brunei, Chile, Singapore, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Vietnam, Peru, Malaysia, Mexico, and very soon, Japan. These nations have a collective GDP of about $11 trillion. For some perspective, U.S. annual GDP is $15 trillion; China's is $7.3 trillion. U.S. joining the TPP is like entering into a deal with a country that has the world's second-largest economy. It could add an estimated $76 billion per year to the U.S. economy. To put this in context, that's equal to about 90 percent of the money saved by this year's sequester. The TPP is also crucial to the administration's "Asia pivot." China is pursuing free-trade agreements in Asia, and the TPP is an effort to balance out Chinese potential dominance in the region.
And the TTIP is even bigger. It would create the largest free-trade zone in the world and produce a $1 trillion annual increase in GDP for the economies on both sides of the Atlantic, according to a European Commission study.
If Obama could negotiate and implement just these two agreements, he would almost without question be the most successful trade president in U.S. history. But the Constitution charges Congress, not the president, with regulating commerce, which means Congress has to pass legislation implementing any agreements the president negotiates. And this is where the administration may have a huge problem on its hands.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/the-odd-bipartisan-coalition-that-could-sink-obamas-free-trade-legacy/276938/
Over two-thirds of Democratic freshmen in the U.S. House of Representatives have expressed serious reservations about the Trans-Pacific Partnership Free Trade Agreement (TPP FTA) negotiations and the prospect of delegating Fast Track trade promotion authority to the President. They voiced their concerns in a letter sent to House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Ranking Ways and Means Member Sander Levin on June 11, 2013, that was spearheaded by Wisconsin Congressman Mark Pocan and signed by 35 other House freshmen.
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http://www.citizenstrade.org/ctc/blog/2013/06/11/democratic-revolt-against-tpp-and-fast-track/
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Republicans have indicated support for TPA, but Tea Party Members of Congress quietly have indicated their reluctance to grant the President more powers. In the past, Presidents might have counted on Republican votes for negotiating free trade. Today, at best the Republican Party probably would split.
New USTR Michael Froman, at a July 18 Ways and Means Committee hearing, effectively reported that leadership on TPA would not be coming from the White House: the Administration was, he said, ready to engage and to help in that process as requested. Two weeks later, he told the U.S. Chamber of Commerce the leading champion of TPA that we stand ready to provide technical assistance and are doing so as required. On July 30, the President himself declared his interest in TPA, but said he would pursue his interest by providing support to Congress.
A substantial number of Members of Congress from the Presidents own party are complaining that they must define the objectives of trade agreements, have access to all information throughout the negotiating process, and be fully informed. They are complaining, with specific reference to the TPP, that they have not had access to information, have not participated in framing negotiating objectives, and have not been kept well informed.
As congressmen complain that negotiations have been secretive and they have been excluded, Ambassador Froman told the Chamber of Commerce that, "Its an incredibly complex negotiation," an observation that could hardly comfort legislators being asked to surrender authority to the judgments and choices of the President.
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http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/tpp-ttip-and-congress-the-elephant-in-80924/
In 2002, the TPA passed the House by the slimmest of margins- 215-212. The opposition this time around seems greater. No doubt, all the stops will be pulled and we will see some massive arm twisting.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Now if we the people would only pay more attention and pump up the pressure so fence-sitters think twice before voting for this.
Thank you Cali, I'm feeling better about this now
AndyA
(16,993 posts)We've lost a lot of jobs, and the United States has received few, if any, benefits from the agreements currently in place.
It would be nice to have leaders who actually put America first for a change, instead of making things better for international corporations, who don't care where the jobs are as long as they make more profit.
Really...we've catered to corporations enough. They've done amazingly well the last few decades. It's the American people who've been harmed. Time to balance things out a bit.
cali
(114,904 posts)corporations, politicians and groups like the national Chamber of Commerce.
The thing is that the TPP is WORSE than any previous FTA, in part because of its sheer size and in part because this FTA is even more corporation friendly.
antigop
(12,778 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Talk like Democrats but when they stand up and walk= Republicans
markiv
(1,489 posts)no iffs, ands or butts
the most damaging period to the middle and working classes, ever, even though it seemed good at the time
NAFTA, MFN-China, 2 massive H-1b increases
these were absolutely devestating, and continue to devestate today
antigop
(12,778 posts)markiv
(1,489 posts)best explanation i've ever seen - real eye opener - she's a law school classmate of Obama's
she explains how no matter what laws you pass through your reps, trade deals can override you
On October 21, 2008, Iowa State University hosted Lori Wallach, Director of Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch as part of their Technology, Globalization and Culture series. Ms. Wallach, an internationally recognized expert on globalization and trade, has been dubbed the "Trade Debate's Guerilla Warrior."
http://www.iptv.org/video/detail.cfm/3135/ittv_20081220_155
cali
(114,904 posts)markiv
(1,489 posts)she started out as one of the people who built this crap
she knows it inside and out
i consider this lecture of hers perhaps the best explanation ever, of our current reality
i havent been able to find contradiction of one iota of it
after seeing it, you will view most of our news as pure crap and noise
antigop
(12,778 posts)Thanks for the video, markiv. It's excellent.
markiv
(1,489 posts)the primaries, the am radio talk shows, the cable news shows......how much of the stuff she covers is really ever discussed, at least in any meanigfull detail?
yet, it affects everything
you have to ask yourself - is that an innocent, or an intentional omission?
markiv
(1,489 posts)!!! !!!
Thanks for the reminder vid, markiv.
TYY
indepat
(20,899 posts)government does best for it's job #1, i.e., none of this promote the general welfare stich.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)know the American people oppose it. So much for democracy.
cali
(114,904 posts)There's been so little about it in the U.S. media. As you may know, I scour the net regularly for stories on the TPP and the vast majority of them (I'd guess over 95%) come out of media in the other TPP countries- the bulk from Malaysia and then Australia. I do think that when it comes time for the big push for TPA (fast track) we'll see a lot more stories, but as of now, there's a real dearth of information being put out.