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TAMPA - Dressed in a black suit, Hassan Shibly, director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, spoke to ABC Action News alone Monday night. Tuesday morning he will be flanked by Abdulbaki Todashev, father of Ibragim Todashev.
Ibragim was shot and killed by FBI agents following a four-hour interrogation on May 22.
"It is never good when an unarmed individual is shot multiple times by FBI agents in his own home after hours of questioning," said Shibly, who was hired by the Todashev family.
Shibly said private investigators hired by Ibragim's family recently found out that the 27-year-old was shot seven times inside his Orlando apartment following lengthy interrogations.
Ibragim, a Russian native, was being questioned about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the Boston bombing suspect who was killed in a shootout with police. FBI agents wanted to know if Tsarnaev was connected to three separate murders in the Waltham area.
"Potentially, he may have been shot while on the ground and potentially the bullets might have been in the back of his head," Shibly said.
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/exclusive-attorney-for-ibragim-todashevs-family-divulges-details-in-fbi-shooting-death#ixzz2btXxDnMl
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Thanks to the corporate media for keeping quiet on this, it could make the FBI look bad and aid the enemy.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)and a mixed martial arts fighter, might attempt to attack agents who were about to arrest him? I mean, if you had just been told that you were going down for a triple homicide you thought you had gotten away with, might you try to fight your way out of situation?
If the FBI did wrong, they should be punished appropriately. But so far, there's no evidence they did.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Is this even being investigated by the FBI?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)My understanding is that the FBI wishes to interview the father, but he has declined.
former9thward
(31,974 posts)Perhaps he does not want to be shot seven times after being "interviewed".
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)as he feels best.
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limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)The government always tries to cover up evidence that makes them look good. They don't like to be seen as bragging, they're very bashful.
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)That'll shut them up and quiet this whole thing down.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)The FBI is not looking good.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)The original suspect, one Sunil Tripathi, 22, a student of Brown University.
We have the elder Tsanaev Brother, and one witness claims she saw him taken out by police.
Then we have the guy in this article, who actually had time to leave the country, and instead of listening to relatives who told him to get out while the going was good, he stayed to clear his name. And apparently his relatives were right. Better alive, although with an American government-destroyed reputation, than dead, said the relatives, who were older and wiser. And he will never get to be either.
We also have three FBI agents who were part of a team that was investigating the bombing - they were killed a short time later when in Virginia on a training mission.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)He was depressed. He went missing a month prior to bombing. He has no connection to the bombing whatsoever.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I noticed a week or so ago that Sunil had been missing for a month before the bombing even occurred, and wondered how it was that some people included him as a victim of the way the "after events" of the bombing occurred.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)triple homicide. The DNA on that should be back soon.
They can file a wrongful death suit, but given his prior arrests for rage/assault incidents, plus his apparent self-incrimination in the Waltham murders, they have a hard slog ahead.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Really?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)that there was an agent-involved shooting which resulted in a death.
What surprises me is that the family did not conduct an autopsy. So we know a few facts for certain, until the FBI autopsy is released.
We do know that the suspect in question was arrested twice for rage incidents, and was currently on bail, awaiting trial on one incident.
Everything else is speculation.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Ibragim was shot, execution-style, in the top of the head.
I fail to see how that was at all necessary.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)post-autopsy, easily discernible by the stitches in him.
The picture his family is touting of an head shot is a sewed over head contusion. Can you identify that as a bullet wound delivered 'execution style?' Where's the exit, if that's true? Where's the bullet track?
Why didn't the family do an autopsy, and why do they think people are stupid enough to believe that what they are posting online are 'autopsy photos?'
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)or did anything to warrant being shot multiple times.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Do I think an FBI agent just casually shot this man? No. There's no evidence to point to that.
Is it more probable that a guy on bail for assault tried to assault an investigator? Well, yeah. If you think you might be going down for three murders, you might just try to fight your way out of it....especially if you actually are a fighter.
former9thward
(31,974 posts)There is none. It is the FBI who shot an unarmed man. They should be providing the evidence. They have not.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)"While trying to stand up, the agent, who suffered a wound to his face from the table that required stitches, drew his gun and saw Mr. Todashev running at him with a metal pole, according to the official, adding that it might have been a broomstick.
The agent fired several shots at Mr. Todashev, striking him and knocking him backward. But Mr. Todashev again charged at the agent. The agent fired several more shots at Mr. Todashev, killing him. The detective in the room did not fire his weapon, the official said.
Under the F.B.I.s guidelines, agents can fire a gun at someone if they feel the person is a threat to them or someone else. The episode is being reviewed by a team of F.B.I. investigators who specialize in shootings and by the district attorney in Orlando, the official said.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/05/31/ibragim_todashev_fbi_officials_offer_a_more_detailed_version_of_what_led.html
The preliminary report is in the hands of the Orlando prosecutor, as I cited above. I suspect we will hear more in the coming weeks.
I think the family should have had their own autopsy.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)The "Craft" outfits have never been questioned.
"Potentially, he may have been shot while on the ground and potentially the bullets might have been in the back of his head," Shibly said.
Why don't you know?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)to the stupid CTers, without actually lying.
He may have been beaten to death with a fluffy bunny....
Got it...
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)up for grabs.