Egypt After Morsi- real reporting from both sides in Egypt

[snooper2]

VICE-

Spend 40 minutes of your life watching this series if you want to understand what is really happening on the ground in Egypt.


I think he nails it in the first video-

"When you look at the crowds here in their pressed polo shirts and glossy blond highlights. You can't help but sense this is the secular middle class elite who ruled Egypt for 60 years taking their country back from the urban poor a few hundred meters down there. And the Islamist president trapped in there. (referring to the Republican Guard Officers Club where the army was holding Morsi)

[dipsydoodle]

1. True

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[Raine1967]

2. I just watched all three videos.

It was enlightening. As much as it pains me to say it, Morsi was democratically elected. I still cannot fathom how overturning a democratically elected official after one year (knowing that Morsi acted like a kid in a candy store, to put it lightly) can result in a stable democratic government over the long term.

I've felt from the start that having the military act in concert with Anti-Morsi protesters to get him out of office was a very bad precedent.

[snooper2]

3. It's a mess, you want secular society with military rule

or Fundies running everything and sharia law--

If I was there I would say, time to fucking move

[Raine1967]

4. You know, you're exactly correct.

Simple and to the point.

I don't have a real good feeling about this.

[stevenleser]

5. Middle Class "elite" strikes me as an oxymoron. Strike elite, add secular and I like them already.

I like the idea that a secular middle class would be in charge. What's the alternative that's proposed? The poor that are in favor of Sharia or the wealthy elites who are the real ones who deserve the term "elites"?

Given those three groups I'll take the secular middle class every time. Of course it's not up to me, but if we're stating our preferences...

[ProSense]

6. The armchair generals

seem to think that the violence will end, or at least the dynamics will change, if the U.S. says, "It's a coup," and cut foreign aid.

I mean, forget the complexities of the situation.

Do those making the claim that Morsi is the democratically elected leader remember that the election that earned him that distinction was the result of a coup?

At this stage, it seems that only another election will resolve this. Getting there is not going to be easy, and it's going to depend in large part on the people of Egypt.

The U.S. can likely help to mediate between to two leadership factions, but I fail to see how declaring the situation a "coup" helps. There may be some sticks and carrots related to cutting foreign aid, but that's not going to immediately end the violence, and it has to be done effectively. In other words, it has to be tied to a policy.

Thanks for posting these interesting clips.