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(15,859 posts)Its the patriotic thing to do.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...always said, "Education is the greatest weapon the United States has and everyone should have access."
It was an argument he used whenever faced with a tax increase.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)It's about the rich getting richer! They don't care about the poor slobs who aren't rich enough to be manor born! Fuck them! They're proles! Let them eat cake!!!!!
Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)words are, the GOP neo-cons don't like anyone who thinks and who wants to broaden their horizons though education. So they decided to punish those that do and wind up voting for the left.
Surprised anyone??????
burnodo
(2,017 posts)Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)Obama made it clear he wanted the student loan interest rates lowered. But the teahadists in congress, as usual, refused to even have a vote about it.
The same for any jobs act, or bills that would benefit, even you.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)I have a staggering debt whose rate has increased because of the the utter inefficacy of Barack Obama.
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burnodo
(2,017 posts)And with all due respect, Obama talks a good game, but his actions rarely match
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Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)Not that you'll take the time to read it, you fool.
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/09/19951265-obama-signs-bipartisan-student-loan-bill-into-law?lite
President Barack Obama Friday signed into law a bipartisan student loan bill which the House overwhelmingly approved late week. The Senate OKd the measure by a vote of 81 to 18 two weeks ago.
Without congressional action, interest rates on loans to college students were increasing from 3.4 percent to 6.8 percent. But under the law signed by Obama the interest rate for undergraduate loans will fall back to 3.86 percent. The interest rate on graduate student loans will be 5.41 percent.
Obamas signature on the bill ends months of arguments over how much the federal government should subsidize student loans and whether students in the next several years will face crushing repayment burdens if interest rates go up, as most observers expect they will.
In the Senate, the compromise bill was crafted by a bipartisan group including Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.V., Richard Burr, R-N.C., and Angus King, I-Maine.
We have demonstrated to the American people that this body has the capacity to overcome partisan differences
., King said when the Senate passed the bill. He said the bill offers a long-term, market-based solution that lowers and caps interest rates for all students taking out a loan and finally gets Congress out of the business of setting rates.
At the signing ceremony at the White House, attended by King and other members of Congress, Obama said it "feels good signing bills. I haven't done this in a while."
Under the new law, the government establishes variable interest rates on Stafford loans for undergraduate college students, but caps the rate at 8.25 percent. The variable rate each year will be pegged to the rate on 10-year Treasury notes, plus 2.05 percent.
The law also sets the interest rate on loans issued to graduate or professional students at the rate on high-yield 10-year Treasury notes plus 3.6 percent, but caps that rate at 9.5 percent.
The law applies to loans made on or after July 1.
In June, Senate Democrats got 51 votes for a measure offered by Sen. Jack Reed, D- R.I., that would have set a fixed 3.4 percent interest rate for student loans over the next two years, but Reed fell short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a potential filibuster. All Democratic senators except Manchin voted to advance Reeds measure to final passage; no Republican voted for it.
One Democrat who supported the Reed bill, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, called the final compromise bill obscene. She said that supporters of the bill say that it will lower interest rates for students this year, and that's all that matters. That's the same thing the credit card companies said when they sold zero-interest credit cards and the same thing subprime mortgage lenders said when they sold teaser rate mortgages.
She added, Nobody disputes the fact that within just a few years, according to our best estimates, students, all students, will end up paying far higher interest rates on their loans than they do right now.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)Gee, thanks!
Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)burnodo
(2,017 posts)thanks for your "input"
Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)You don't even know what that means.......... Did you pick that word up on a right-wing site?
burnodo
(2,017 posts)chillfactor
(7,573 posts)what a dufus you are...good god....why an ignoramus would come here and post such stupidity for everyone to see says a great deal about the kind of person you are...are you even human with a fuctioning brain? certainly doesn't seem so...
burnodo
(2,017 posts)I responded to isolde...can't you read?!?!
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Bullshit. The repigs are behind it.
dhill926
(16,333 posts)"a country the rest of the world would like to emulate," instead of "will fear." Otherwise, dead on.....
MuseRider
(34,103 posts)I love Henry Rollins. Saw him last year, he was amazing. I don't have any desire to be feared, that leads to the crap we are stuck with now.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)Happen.
Blue Idaho
(5,044 posts)Is easier to manipulate and control. A highly educated nation is the backbone of a democracy.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Don't question authority or Jesus will git yew.
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Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)How does making tuition free or low cost, effect these people?
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Our colleges right now are chock FULL of students who have no business being there at all, except Mommy and Daddy have money. Some of these kids are just flat stupid, and yet there they are. On the other hand we have an awful lot of brilliant young minds that DON'T go to college, for a number of reasons that all come down to money.
Just imagine what we could achieve if we gave the most education to those who can actually make use of it.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)http://www.npr.org/2012/01/13/145121706/evangelical-leaders-struggle-to-crown-a-candidate
"There is no perfect candidate," says Bryan Fischer, director of issue analysis at the American Family Association. "Jesus Christ is not on the ballot in any of the primary elections, so that means social conservatives have to do triage."
Welcome to the Taliban States of America
underpants
(182,729 posts)but he mentioned his travels around the world and what people want. The first thing he said - the first thing was "respect". After that it was cover (housing) , opportunity for their kids.
Respect
#1
So simple. He is a very smart person.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Up there with Neil DeGrasse Tyson, in fact
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)and when I went there It was $18 a semester registration, and sometimes lab fees. And, of course, books. Really-- you could go to college for a hundred bucks or less a year.
Lest you think you get what you pay for, who went to City college, besides me?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_City_College_of_New_York_alumni
Here's a partial list, with some names you might know bolded:
(And this is just City College. The list gets a lot longer if you include Queens, Hunter and Brooklyn Colleges, which were also free under the old CUNY)
Nobel laureates:
Julius Axelrod 19331970 Nobel laureate in Medicine
Kenneth Arrow 19401972 Nobel laureate in Economics
Herbert Hauptman 19371985 Nobel laureate in Chemistry
Robert Hofstadter 19351961 Nobel laureate in Physics
Jerome Karle 19371985 Nobel laureate in Chemistry
Arthur Kornberg 19371959 Nobel laureate in Medicine
Leon M. Lederman 19431988 Nobel laureate in Physics
Arno Penzias 19541978 Nobel laureate in Physics
Robert J. Aumann 19502005 Nobel laureate in Economics
Politics, government, and sociology:
Herman Badillo 1951, former Congressman and Chairman of CUNY's Board of Trustees, an architect of the University's academic rebirth
Daniel Bell sociologist, professor at Harvard University
Bernard M. Baruch 1889 Wall Street financier and adviser to American Presidents for 40 years, from Woodrow Wilson to John F. Kennedy
Abraham D. Beame 1928 mayor of New York City, 1974 to 1977
Stephen Bronner political theorist, Marxist, professor at Rutgers University
Upendra J. Chivukula first Asian American elected to the New Jersey General Assembly
Henry Cohen 1943 Director, Föhrenwald DP Camp; Founding Dean the Milano School for Management and Urban Policy at the The New School
Felix Frankfurter 1902 justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, January 30, 1939 August 28, 1962
George Friedman founder of Stratfor, author, professor of Political Science, security and defense analyst
Nathan Glazer sociologist and professor at Harvard University
Irving Howe coined the phrase "New York Jewish Intellectual"
Henry Kissinger Nobel Peace Prize and Secretary of State, National Security Advisor (did not graduate)
Ed Koch 1945 mayor of New York City, 1978 to 1989
Irving Kristol 1940 neoconservative pundit
Abraham Foxman National Director of the Anti-Defamation League
Robert T. Johnson 1972 Bronx District Attorney
Melvin J. Lasky 1938 anti-communist, editor of Encounter 1958 to 1991
Guillermo Linares 1975 the first Dominican-American New York City Council Member
Colin L. Powell United States Secretary of State (20012005; Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (19891993) and U.S. Army General; National Security Advisor (19871989)
{Sal Restivo} 1965 Pioneer ethnographer of science, one of the founders of the sociology of mathematics, founding member and former president of the Society for Social Studies of Science.
Simon Gourdine - NYC Commissioner of Consumer Affairs under Mayor Koch.
Julius Rosenberg infamous convicted spy during the Cold War
Robert F. Wagner Sr. United States Senator from New York, 1927 to 1949
Michele Wallace 1975 a major figure in African-American studies, feminist studies and cultural studies
Stephen Samuel Wise 1891 Reform rabbi, early Zionist and social justice activist.
The arts[edit source | editbeta]
Maurice Ashley 1993 the first African-American International Chess Grandmaster.
Paddy Chayevsky famed playwright and screenwriter, wrote Marty, Hospital and Altered States
Ira Gershwin 1918 American lyricist, collaborator with, and brother of George Gershwin
Marv Goldberg 1964 Music historian in the field of rhythm & blues
Hazelle Goodman 1986 Stage, screen and TV actress, was the first African-American to hold a leading role in a Woody Allen film, Deconstructing Harry.
Sterling Morrison 1970 Musician, co-founder of "The Velvet Underground"
Arthur Guiterman, humorous poet
Ben Shahn artist
Luis Guzmán actor
E.Y. "Yip" Harburg 1918 American lyricist (The Wizard of Oz, Finian's Rainbow, others)
Judd Hirsch 1960 American actor
David Margulies actor
Zero Mostel 1935 actor
Faith Ringgold 1959 artist and children's book author and illustrator
Edward G. Robinson 1914 actor
Frank J. Sciame 1974 architect
Richard Schiff 1983 Emmy award winning actor and a star of The West Wing (his character, Toby Ziegler, also attended CCNY)
Alfred Stieglitz 1884 photographer
Eli Wallach 1938 (MA) actor
William Gati, AIA 1981,1982,1984 (BS, BArch, MArch) Architect and Educator
Ernest Lehman 1937 (BS) Screenwriter ("North by Northwest", "The Sound of Music", "Sweet Smell of Success", "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?"
Gabourey Sidibe actress
Literature and journalism[edit source | editbeta]
Alan Abelson 1942 columnist, former editor, Barron's
Joe Cioffi 1982 meteorologist. Initially worked at KRIS-TV in Texas and WVUE-TV in Louisiana and later reported on the weather for News 12 Long Island, WPIX and WNBC.
Morris Raphael Cohen philosopher, lawyer, and legal scholar
Dan Daniel 1910 Dean of American Sportswriters
Oscar Hijuelos 1975 won the 1990 Pulitzer Prize for his novel The Mambo Kings Play Songs of Love
Jack Kroll 1937 culture editor, Newsweek
Paul Levinson author of The Plot to Save Socrates and The Silk Code (winner, Locus Award, 1999)
Bernard Malamud 1936 (BA) author (won the 1967 Pulitzer Prize and a National Book Award for his novel The Fixer, and another National Book Award for The Magic Barrel, also wrote The Natural (1952) )
Montrose Jonas Moses (18781934) author
Walter Mosley 1991 MA best-selling author whose novels about private eye Easy Rawlins have received Edgar and Golden Dagger Awards.
Michael Oreskes 1975 Executive Editor of the International Herald Tribune
Mario Puzo bestselling novelist, screenwriter The Godfather
Selwyn Raab investigative journalist for The New York Times[1]
A.H. Raskin former labor editor, The New York Times.
A.M. Rosenthal 1949, former Executive Editor of The New York Times.
Henry Roth novelist and author of Call It Sleep, a novel on the Jewish immigrant experience.
Robert Scheer journalist and radio host
Stephen Shepard 1961 editor in chief, Business Week
Anatole Shub editor and journalist specializing in Eastern European matters.
Upton Sinclair 1897 (BA) author of The Jungle (1906)
Robert Sobel 1951 (BSS), 1952 (MA) best-selling author of business histories.
Gary Weiss 1975 investigative journalist, author of Born to Steal (2003) and Wall Street Versus America (2006)
Science and technology[edit source | editbeta]
Solomon Asch psychologist, known for the Asch conformity experiments
Julius Blank engineer, member of the "traitorous eight" that founded Silicon Valley
Adin Falkoff engineer, computer scientist, co-inventor of the APL language interactive system
George Washington Goethals 1887 civil engineer, best known for his supervision of construction and the opening of the Panama Canal
Dan Goldin 1962 served as the 9th and longest-tenured administrator of NASA.
Robert E. Kahn 1960 Internet pioneer, co-inventor of the TCP/IP protocol, co-recipient of the Turing Award in 2004
Gary A. Klein 1964 research psychologist, known for pioneering the field of naturalistic decision making
Leonard Kleinrock 1957 Internet pioneer
Solomon Kullback Mathematician; NSA cryptology pioneer
Lewis Mumford historian of technology
Charles Lane Poor noted astronomer
Howard Rosenblum 1950 BSEE NSA Engineer; developer of the STU (Secure Telephone Unit)
Mario Runco, Jr. 1974 astronaut.
Jonas Salk 1934 inventor of the Salk vaccine (see polio vaccine)
Philip H. Sechzer 1934 anesthesiologist, pioneer in pain management; inventor of patient-controlled analgesia (PCA)
Abraham Sinkov Mathematician; NSA (National Security Agency) cryptology pioneer
David B. Steinman 1906 engineer; bridge designer (Class 1906)
Leonard Susskind 1962 physicist, string theory
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Anyone would be proud to be a part of the company
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)While I welcome the interest rates staying low, and would like them even lower, it still doesn't address the central issue of college costs. Nothing seems to be causing tuition to go down, instead tuition keeps rising at pretty high rates despite already being extremely expensive.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Understands neither strength nor power.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)It is difficult to choose what you haven't learned, or learned to infer.