"Eve of Destruction" at Politico (The GOP has reasons to panic)

[applegrove]

Eve of Destruction

By MIKE ALLEN and JIM VANDEHEI at Politico

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/behind-the-curtain-eve-of-destruction-95594.html

"SNIP.............................



It is almost impossible to find an establishment Republican in town who’s not downright morose about the 2013 that has been and is about to be. Most dance around it in public, but they see this year as a disaster in the making, even if most elected Republicans don’t know it or admit it.

Several influential Republicans told us the party is actually in a worse place than it was Nov. 7, the day after the disastrous election. This is their case:


• The party is hurting itself even more with the very voters they need to start winning back: Hispanics, blacks, gays, women and swing voters of all stripes.

• The few Republicans who stood up and tried to move the party ahead were swatted into submission: Speaker John Boehner on fiscal matters and Sen. Marco Rubio on immigration are the poster boys for this.


............................SNIP"

[truebluegreen]

1. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

[Downwinder]

3. Or a more deserving bunch.

[gordianot]

2. They do have a response become greater liars and cheats.

So if you are a Republican your best course of action is to rig the system, rely on you lies and distortions and hope no one will care.

[ralps]

4. Awww Poor babies!! LOL

[freshwest]

7. Yes, we've done a gotcha! Great gif! *steals* Thanks, ralps.

[Iliyah]

5. Thats why gopers are rushing with the voter suppressions,

gerrymandering and red-redistricting with the continued lying and blaming on the Dems. Their misinformed base already believe that its the Dems who want to destroy snap (food stamps) much like their base truly believing that Dems want to destroy medicare and SSI.

Therefore, pass the popcorn.

[nikto]

6. Just remember: Whenever you talk to a GOPer...

Just tell them how awesome their strategy is, and never to change, compromise or betray their principles.

[LearningCurve]

75. Also ...

"I would have voted for Romney if only he'd been more conservative."

[freshwest]

8. Only way they'll get them back is if they convince them to go Libertarian. They're working on it.

[kelliekat44]

9. Below is the one statement that all Dems should pay attention to and make sure they get out the vote

"These Republicans came into the year exceptionally hopeful the party would finally wise up and put immigration and irresponsible rhetoric and governing behind them. Instead, Republicans dug a deeper hole. This probably doesn’t matter for 2014, because off-year elections are notoriously low-turnout affairs where older whites show up in disproportionate numbers. "

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/behind-the-curtain-eve-of-destruction-95594.html#ixzz2c6ZYymgy

[Rozlee]

64. In another 15 years

a great many of that demographic is going to be toes up. If they're panicking now...

[nomorenomore08]

66. I will vote Dem in 2014. And in 2016. I'm not exactly excited but the lesser evil is still just that

nt

[sheshe2]

10. They were AWOL...

Of their humanity, their souls and their ever-effing minds!

Bye bye!

[freshwest]

43. Well said. You got the heart of the matter. Just Lindy West did about 2012:

...The party that my team defeated on Tuesday was a nebulous, fiscally disastrous pitchfork mob - united by racism, xenophobia, self-interest, willful ignorance, hatred of the poor, and a puritanical desire to deny my gay friends their civil rights and me, PERSONALLY, equal access to health care and basic humanity...

http://jezebel.com/5958966/my-ten-favorite-kinds-of-right+wing-temper-tantrums

Goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the way out, GOP.

[sheshe2]

44. Dear lord that link was frightening! nt

[freshwest]

45. Aw, really? I thought it was hilarious. Remember the ProSense threads on 'It's been a week since...

Obama whipped Mitt Romney's ass!'

[sheshe2]

47. Okay this one was funny~

10. A-boo-boo-boo-boo-boo-boo-boooooooo. Bla-bloo-bloo-bloo-bloogh-bloogh-bloooooooogh.








http://jezebel.com/5958966/my-ten-favorite-kinds-of-right+wing-temper-tantrums

Thanks freshwest!

[freshwest]

48. Well, #1 and #4 I have the source screencapped, it was the webmaster of Libertarian Republican.

Weren't those just so classy, so precious?

He gave his complete hate filled swan song about learning Spanish and moving to Mexico...

No shit!

It was tragic, as if he was writing his last will and testament, telling others to bravely carry on in his place as he bid Adieu...



He returned with his tail between his legs, as he was enheartened to get a chance to rant about Ben-Ghazi!

And they come along and tell us what to do?

[sheshe2]

49. I don't even know how to say this, freshwest

The picture in #1 bothered me. It bothered me when I read the crap that was posted. At first I thought that the pic was from "The Help", but after looking, I don't think it was.

It pissed me off. They used a black woman laughing to make their point. It looks as if she is a maid. Ha ha get rid of Obama............

The 4th yup a class act. It made me cry. I had a problem looking at the pic that was posted there too. It was nasty. It was posted to hurt and it did. Maybe I am being to sensitive, but I think not.

[freshwest]

50. I'm not seeing maids or anything wrong with the Will Smith pic. That little girl is funny.

I'm not getting it, but you can write me.

Did you understand that all the UGLY was from RW blogs and she was making fun of them?

Anyway, never matter. Might be that time of the year when people don't understand each other.

I'm gone for the night on that note.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

11. A preview of Rick Scott's campaign...

[demwing]

21. I'm terrible. That made me laugh way more than it should have...

especially the captain and the pink bikini lady

[Spitfire of ATJ]

31. Seemed appropo. Especially the faceplant.

[burnodo]

40. wow!

you'd think the guy might slow down just a tad!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

42. He did.

[tofuandbeer]

12. I never celebrate a GOP demise:

It only takes one lying and convincing candidate to gain popularity, catch the left off guard, and wisp the country back under their belt.
I feel the GOP is looking at all the angles right now to see which one sticks.

[Kennah]

59. If a GOP demise is necessary for the US to recover, then so be it.

[obxhead]

76. It's never good to grave dance

especially when they aren't in that grave yet!

[quakerboy]

13. I'll hold my celebration

untill we manage to hold the senate. And the presidency. And maybe until we manage to pick up a house majority and a SCOTUS majority to go with it.

Till those things happen, all this analysis means very very little.

[Myrina]

27. .... and even then, until Wall Street & the Corporate CEOs' holds are broken ...

... and we get some seriously REAL PROGRESSIVE pro-worker, pro-people, constitution abiding legislation back on the books, in stone, us average working folk need to worry.

[Plucketeer]

46. I have to agree!

We could hold all three and the court and it would STILL be F'd up until the money was removed from politics. Money truly IS the root of the evil that pervades our governing bodies!

[DCBob]

14. Rubio's demise is the most remarkable.

He was GOP's golden boy that was gong to solve all their Hispanic problems at the voter booth. He's now being described as a traitor and one of the enemy by many in the RW. Its beginning to look a bit like the French Revolution over there. No one is quite good enough.

[BumRushDaShow]

15. That's because they chose the "divide and conquer" strategy

by pitting the loud-mouthed Cruz against the docile Rubio... knowing that the craziest, most self-hating one was destined to "win" the day for them and torpedo the whole issue.

[leftynyc]

17. They found another token

That Cruz guy from Texas. Another Cuban.

[Demeter]

16. I'd feel happier about this report on GOP demise

if the Democrats weren't failing in the same way, or worse.

Like lemmings, the Third Way is leading (or rather, dragging) this country off the cliffs, every single one they can find!

[Puzzledtraveller]

24. Exactly

But the banner wavers and cheerleaders will hoot on holler for a meaningless victory just because it's our team trouncing the opposition as iif that's all the mattters anymore. They are being played, the real string pullers have no allegiance.

[Myrina]

28. ^^ This, x1000 ^^

We'd be well off to truly realize this.

[tridim]

34. LOL, are you fucking kidding me?

This OP is about the destruction of the GOP (amazing news) and instead you try to equate Democrats with Republicans by making up a fake meme that we're destroying ourselves too? Maybe even worse!!!!!1111

Hint: NO, we are not. Not even close. Your post is pure anti-Democratic spam.

What are you trying to accomplish by introducing this divisive bullshit on DU?

[Ikonoklast]

38. That's what third-party fringers do here on DU.

They cannot build a party based on their own principles because they are too far outside what this country wants, so they try to tear down others.

[Capn Sunshine]

79. Except the DLC is defunct

Dissolved. Kaput. History. Happened awhile ago.

However, it , along with its destructive politics, lives on here at DU.

Thank GOD this isn't the real world. It took a lot of effort to kill those SOBs off.

You guys just love to keep parading the corpse around though like a fucking Weekend At Bernies movie.

[Ikonoklast]

80. Not me. I know that the DLC is deader than disco, and irrelevant to any current political discussion

I am perfectly aware that the DLC is deader than disco, and irrelevant to any current political discussion.

Might as well dig up some Whigs and use them as the whipping boy.

I am glad that they are no longer the driving force they were, funny how many Clintonistas prefer to ignore just who the founding members of that movement were...

They lost me at NAFTA.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

18. Uh oh. Republico sounds worried. nt

[CTyankee]

19. Joe Scarborough was holding forth on this today on Morning Joe. He sees the handwriting on the

wall but I didn't hear any concrete ideas out of his mouth on how to clear up the mess that the GOP is in...Mike Allen was own and grinning...I love it when he gets all "dishy" with this kind of stuff...

[malaise]

20. Politico is a ReTHUG rag

with an agenda. Fuck Mike Allen and Jim Vandehei. They are hoping for Christie or Bush the same way they rooted for Rmoney.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

22. This is all well and good....

....but somehow, the Thugs will hold the House and take the Senate. They are rewarded for the fact we have a lot of stupid, racist, pieces of shit that will vote for them no matter what.

[jimlup]

23. I hope we are seeing the ends of this out of touch party...

I think by 2020 they may be gone for real.

[Puzzledtraveller]

25. One party rule

it's where it's at!

[Jack Rabbit]

26. We won't have one party rule very long

No tent is so big as to include everybody.

On the other hand, while we need an opposition party, we don't need the Republicans. Let's hope we never see a coalition of racists, religious bigots, misogynists, corporate fascists and science deniers ever again.

[jimlup]

36. +1

My suspicion is that at first the teapublicans may take power in what was traditionally the "Republican" party. Some will leave and may even form a new opposition party. This could happen as early as 2016 and the reverse is also possible. The fatal split in the Republican party is between the right leaning centrists and the teapublican libertarian extremists.

The extremists will be co-opted by corporatalists (this has already pretty much happened) and the centrists will also serve monied interests. Whatever emerges after 2020 "other" mainstream party will likely not be the teahadists but maybe I'm just being optimistic.

[VADem1980]

41. We don't need a big tent. Just a big enough tent.

Bible thumpers, anti-choicers, mysoginists, homophobes, bigots, corporatists, war hawks, and other right-of-center anti-progressives have no place in our great party, nor due they have a place as part of civil participation.

We don't need to include their ilk, just enough people to shut them out and down so they don't spread their hate and influence the political progress. Hopefully, with immigration reform and other measures to ease rethuglican influenced gerry mandering, this will become a reality.

One party! The Democratic Party!!!

[caseymoz]

29. An example of poetic justice rhyming. nt

[KamaAina]

30. Pretty sad when Boner is the sane one.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. Republican Party is a mess. The authors of this piece don't know just how bad a mess.

I love the hopeful if utterly misinformed language they use here:
"The party is hurting itself even more with the very voters they need to start winning back: Hispanics, blacks, gays, women and swing voters of all stripes. "

Winning back? They never, ever had Latinos, blacks or gays. Can't 'win back' that which you never had. These Politico guys live in a candy coated dream world in which Republicans used to get gay and African American voters? Seriously?
And who are these 'swing voters'? I don't think they exist, the voters who might vote Obama and might vote Romney are a made up species, they are less real than Sasquatch.

[pinboy3niner]

33. This reference needs a post of the original 'Eve of Destruction' ...

[mick063]

35. Timeless song

A couple verses:

"And even the Jordan river has bodies floatin".

"Hate you next door neighbor, but don't forget to say Grace"

Truly timeless.

[Lifelong Protester]

37. Stay thirsty, my friends

( ah,Marco, they hardly used ya'!)

[burnodo]

39. El Flushbo talked about this today

He referred to Vandehei and Allen as "left of Stalin"

[madrchsod]

51. i just read silver is betting on the senate going republican....

who knows... he might be right or he could be wrong

[BlueDemKev]

52. Is this a recent prediction?

Silver did predict earlier this summer that there was a 50-50 chance of the Republicans gaining a tiny majority in the Senate. Has he said something since then?

[madrchsod]

60. not sure...i forgot the article.

the numbers were close to 50-50 with the dems losing by a few points. it`s time to start up the machine!

[DeSwiss]

53. Nixon's ''Southern Strategy'' has come......

...back to bite the ass that spawned it. They wanted ignorant racist southerners, and now they got em' up the wazoo.

- Poetic justice, do your thang.

K&R
[center][/center]

[blkmusclmachine]

54. Don't worry, GOPee. The "DEMS" are always nearby ready to "bi-partisan" the differences away.

They'll save you, again. They always do.

Bipartisanship sucks.

[Beowulf42]

55. Not only these

Not only the demographics mentioned in the article, but an article a few days ago alluded to the idea that seniors were finally beginning to figure out that the GOP was doing great harm to the older members of our society. But I've heard too many times predictions of the eminent demise of the Republican party; and they are still around. We often times delude ourselves into a state of overconfidence and by doing so we get trampled when the elephant changes tactics. Be on guard. Evil is forever on the march.

[tiredtoo]

56. Keep in mind

The folks that posted all that nasty shit were in complete shock, they had been watching faux noise and thought Romney was going to win. I had similar reactions from many Republicans i associate with. Total shock and disbelief.

[MoonRiver]

57. You can't fix stupid.

[eridani]

58. They'll be around as long as the 1% needs them as pimps

That is a long time. Remember, the demographic trends favoring Democrats don't count unless people register and vote.

[Left Coast2020]

61. Memo to GOP:

To all personnel: Vacation is almost over. TIme to get those government shutdown plans engaged. Full speed ahead. Our base is waiting for us. Shut it down. Shut it down!

[Safetykitten]

62. Again with the republicans on the ropes story. This should be in episodes.

[Gus Lammas]

63. Yet they keep on tellin' themselves.....

...over and over and over again, my friend, they don't believe

[JNelson6563]

65. A happy thought...

Sadly this ignores the fact that the R's have a stranglehold on many states, not to mention counties, cities and towns.

My state, MI, is being strangled to death right now.

Julie

[B Calm]

67. We are witnessing the end of the republican party.

It's taking a little more time than I would like, but it's coming!

[merrily]

68. During the Bush era, we heard the Democratic Party was dust.

Then came Novermber 2006 and November 2008.

Then, we heard the Republican party was dust.

Then came record-breaking Republican victories at all levels in 2010.

We just had an election November 2012. Republicans retained control of the House (granted, due in part to gerrymandering, and held on to a lot of state legislatures and state houses, but we are again hearing the Republican Party is dust.

Me, I don't think either party is dust.

I think there is a lot of drama and also a lot of kabuki.

I would hold that belief, if everything is as it seems to be. I would also hold it if I thought the Republican v. Democrat bit was theater, or maybe the circus part of bread and circus.

Either way, we are not going to become a one party nation any time soon.

[underpants]

69. They have been over since the 2006 elections only Fox News and gerrmandering keeps them alive

E.J. Dionne accurately called them "The Party of the South" after their crushing defeat in the 2006 midterms (notice the MSM never mentions that election). They are reflecting their southern roots and base.

[RKP5637]

70. GOP, portrait of an obsolete political party for the 21st century, a throwback party. n/t

[99Forever]

71. We've been hearing this kind of thing for years...

... yet, we also keep hearing excuses that nothing can be done to help anyone but the 1%, Wall Street, the banksters, and the MIC.

Sorry, I don't buy it for one second. I'm not distracted, both parties are owned, lock,stock, and barrel by the same PTB. This is just more of the false sense of "hope" they peddle while turning up the heat on the frog.

[NorthCarolina]

72. The pendulum is swining back into the peoples house. Bye bye GOP and DLC Dems. nt

[toby jo]

73. 2014 - epic coming featuring the company Romney sent overseas - where are they now?

Chinese growth on Romney fat - the breakdown, future potentials, % of funds sent to offshore accounts.

[Jamaal510]

74. It's interesting that Asian and Native American voters are rarely mentioned,

since the GOP's numbers with those electorates are dismal, as well; about 73% of all Asian voters voted for Obama, and about 90% of Native Americans did. Pretty much, the GOP has struggled with all racial/ethnic minorities, not just Blacks and Hispanics.

[Sunlei]

77. should have signed the dream act Rs..then your BS mountian wouldn't have cost you everything.

[maddiemom]

78. I used to teach these lyrics back around the end of the sixties, early seventies.

Along with a number of other songs back then, it was great to raise interest in, and compare with accepted poetry. I never took any flack for it and the kids really ate it up and became eager to discuss all the devices and elements of "real poetry." This was fairly common with young English teachers back then. I've been amused to see this ripped off in more recent TV movies as if the young teacher just invented the wheel.