Egypt chaos: Not everyone in Cairo is unhappy with the violence
CAIRO, Egypt — As the Muslim Brotherhood sit-in outside Cairo’s Rabaa al-Adaweya mosque descended into chaos Wednesday— with police and army troops firing indiscriminately on thousands of protesters in broad daylight — Ragab Ahmed stood outside the building nearby where he works as a doorkeeper.
“I want to live in peace with them,” Ahmed said of the mostly Islamist demonstrators who had camped out for six weeks to protest the military ouster of former President Mohamed Morsi in July. “But the sit-in had to be dispersed.”
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May Afifi, employee at the Cairo Opera House: “For me, what happened yesterday was right. When this happened two years ago [to protesters], I thought it was wrong. But what happen against the Muslim Brotherhood last night, this was right. They are a terrorist organization and were using more arms and more arms.”
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Ahmed Rafat, paramedic: “The Muslim Brotherhood started all of this violence. Their militants did. They started shooting at the police and they deserve everything that comes to them.”
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http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/egypt/130814/egypt-reacts-cairo-crackdown-muslim-brotherhood-700-killed
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And once reality struck about their own country they took the first opportunity that arose. 
I still blame Morsi for showing his hand so quickly and failing to address the situation civilly. But he is a jihadi so, there's that. I think the MB feels it will gain more power by tearing down the military by causing chaos for a long time.
Read what you are writing. Take your hand out of your pants, and stop with the Hitchensesque "my bigotry is okay because i'm secular!" arguments, and fucking read what you are saying.
You know those shitty motherfucking "people" who will tell a rape victim that she shouldn't have worn a skirt, and that she should have been home earlier, and that she should have been prepared? They'll acknowledge the rapist is the criminal (if you call them on it, never before) but their focus is not on the crime, it's not on the criminal, it's on transferring blame to the victim. For them, standing there and feeling so very righteous about giving the victim of an atrocity a "common sense talking-to" and patting themselves on the back for being a "Realist" is what it's all about. Both the victim and the abuser are cyphers , screens for the victim-blamer's own self-righteousness to be cast upon.
That is what you are doing here. We have a massacre. Well over half a thousand people dead. Shot, blasted, burned. Well over a thousand more injured by the same methods. The perpetrator is the authoritarian military junta that installed itself via a violent, antidemocratic coup and has ever since been working on liquidating (that's government-speak for "exterminating"
supporters of the deposed government.
Your response to this is to smack your lips and tell us all how you have no sympathy for "radical islamists," how Morsi wasn't a bouquet of roses either, and this other shit that serves to deflect from the crime perpetrated and the criminals who perpetrated it, and instead focus on putting the victims under the spotlight to examine how very much they deserved it. You'll wave your hand around that you're "not happy" with the new junta (really, "not happy?" Careful, that's some strong language!) but in so doing you actually reinforce your clear focus on holding the victims responsible for their own murders. Maybe you're not doing it out of some sort of malice, but instead are trying to show your "chops" as a "realist" giving them a "common sense talking-to" - it doesn't matter, it's what you're doing.
Let's, for a moment engage your fantasy. Let's say every single person was there, furiously masturbating while gazing at a picture of one of Mursi's bristly chins and chanting "mi gusta jihad!" only in Arabic instead of Spanish. Every one of them has a flashing neon sign installed in their skulls that flashes "RADICAL ISLAMIST HERE!" as in your would they obviously must have. Even in this grotesque parody of reality, no sane argument could be made that blames them for being gunned down by the military and exonerates (or at least whitewashes) blame from the junta.
The fact that you are arguing this, that you are brushing aside the murder of hundreds and the mangling of thousands under hte justification that Morsi was a cock, all while (supposedly( doing so in the name of "freedom" and "democracy" is why I called you depraved. There's no other word for it.
It also takes on a note of irony here; since you're posting on Democratic Underground, i have to assume you support president Barack Obama, at least on SOME level. Thing is, Obama just yesterday made a conscious decision that his administration will keep providing arms and money to the very men who perpetrated this massacre, even as the junta made it clear that they will use that materiel to continue the oppression and slaughter of Egyptians. It's not an oversight, it's not an accident, our president had a clear opportunity to take a stand against this coup and its slaughters... and instead made a conscious and clear decision that he will continue funding and arming it.
This is the same president whose administration is providing unspecified "assistance" to Syrian "freedom fighters" (i.e., jihadists). Funny, your support for this president who has this policy, actually puts you in a worse place than the supporters of Morsi, who simply voiced such a position. And since you don't seem to be too bothered by "Morsi supporters" being gunned down and blown up on that rationale, can I assume you hold the same opinion towards "Obama supporters"?
No, of course you don't. There's different standards at work in your head, aren't there?
You're an American, able to have nuanced thoughts and feelings and opinions. Presumably, though you generally support the president, you don't support absolutely all of his policies and decisions. You are an independent thinker, and you can say "I'm for this policy but against that policy, all while acknowledging yourself as an Obama supporter, correct? This is all because you're a Real Person™
However, these Egyptians filling up the morgues in Cairo? They're not capable of nuanced thought and feelings and opinions, are they? No, these "Morsi Supporters" are unthinkingly, unswervingly loyal to everything the president of Egypt thinks. They are unable to have varied stances on political issues - no, they're one and all church-burning, jew-hating "radical islamists," aren't they? That's because they're not Real People™ to you, they're cartoon characters...
And when a cartoon character dies, it doesn't really matter to the Real People™ like you.
