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Archae

(46,318 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:14 AM Aug 2013

Ken Ham, head of Kentucky's "creation museum" admits science and logic can't help him...

So he says only the Bible is right.
All scientists are wrong.

You cannot convince people that evolution is false with logic, according to the founder of the Creation Museum in Kentucky.

In a 60-second radio ad released Thursday, Answers in Genesis President Ken Ham admitted there was no scientific evidence that conclusively demonstrated that evolution was a lie.

But that didn’t mean there wasn’t solid evidence that evolution was a lie. The solid evidence just wasn’t scientific.

“We have solid proof in in our hands that evolution is a lie: the Bible,” Ham explained. “You see, we can’t depend solely on our reasoning ability to convince skeptics. We present the evidence and do the best we can to convince people the truth of God by always pointing them to the Bible.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/15/creationist-radio-ad-evolution-cannot-be-debunked-with-reason/

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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
2. He needs to make sure he does not seek modern medical treatment
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:22 AM
Aug 2013

Evolution is the basis for all modern medical care, because evolution is the basis of all biological science.

so fundies who want to insist on their bible view of the world should put their lives where their mouths are and forgo medical treatment because it's not in the bible, either.

they can rely on faith healing.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Ken Ham's Lysenkoism for the 21st Century.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:39 AM
Aug 2013

I am sure Ham would be interested and amuses in that particular chapter of history and the decades long setback that resulted, even today in the former Soviet Union. But I doubt he would get the irony.

In other words, Ken Ham is a fucking lunatic.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
4. Ooooh! Maybe he'll come back again so Warren D can write another epic PPR message for him!
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:42 AM
Aug 2013
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Mr. Ham, you are a manufacturer of misinformation, a peddler of falsitude, a veritable Iron Chef of unmitigated bullshit. You should be ashamed of yourself, sir. Not for being wrong- no, far better and brighter folks than you have been that- but for stubbornly and willfully plugging your ears to logic, critical thinking, and literally mountains of objective scientific evidence-- even as you use the products of science, reason and critical thought- like, oh, computers, electricity, and cheesy animatronic museum exhibits- to further misinform and de-educate. Im sorry that reality- actual, objective reality- is so in conflict with whatever 2 dimensional sunday school cartoon youve got playing on a loop in your head. The truth is, however, at the end of the day you are WRONG. Wrong on the facts. Heres a clue: Many good people are perfectly able to reconcile their theology with proven Scientific fact. If you cant, one of those things is logically wrong. And its not the science.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
7. We present the evidence and
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:29 AM
Aug 2013

do the best we can to convince people the truth of God by always pointing them to the Bible.


Why?

Archae

(46,318 posts)
9. In Ham's case, I think it's pretty cut-and-dried.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:43 AM
Aug 2013

$$$.

Ham is making a fortune off his Bible-thumping science-denying.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. You may be right,
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:56 AM
Aug 2013

But do you think he consciously is taking the public for a ride for the money? A lot of bible preachers do that but when I listen to him he doesn't sound that smart or manipulative. He sounds like he's brainwashed by his own religion by wrote and practice... and also makes bucks on it. I doubt he would retire to Denmark and write a book on religious mythology.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
11. I put Ham in the same category I do Robertson.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:00 AM
Aug 2013

He may actually believe his own drivel, but he loves all the ca$h that is rolling in.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
12. Strange
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:17 AM
Aug 2013

Isn't it strange that these hypocritical conservative religious moralist nuts can so easily preach against divorce and then go and readily divorce themselves from reality?

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
15. Obamacare should give people an option...
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 04:52 AM
Aug 2013

at age 30, you can decide to pay $5/month and have people pray for you when you get sick. It's irrevocable.

Or... you can pay a reasonable amount for modern, scientific care.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. Mr. Ham himself (Hamself?) has been known to troll DU on occasion, in threads like this one.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:13 AM
Aug 2013

Big fun, big fun.

Hi, Ken!

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