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AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:57 AM Aug 2013

Have Republicans/Tea Party Members gotten worse in the last few years?

So many stories about Republicans (including Tea party members) booing people who are disabled, or disadvantaged. Hating on Veterans, and other specific groups including foreign born Americans and Visitors. Hating on Democrats and Liberals in various forms. Making outrageous and untrue statements via Fox News and Republican backed Radio Networks.

It just seems like it has totally escalated in the last few years, or has it been like this for a while? America seems more divided than ever..


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Have Republicans/Tea Party Members gotten worse in the last few years? (Original Post) AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 OP
I voted not sure because I think their vile disgusting behavior has remained constant over time. TexasTowelie Aug 2013 #1
I spent the entire day at the hospital yesterday AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #4
Oh my dear! TexasTowelie Aug 2013 #7
Kiyotsukite Asahinakimi dono. Ogenki narite. Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #12
arigatou AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #14
I think they are far more desperate now. Rex Aug 2013 #2
TV has dumbed down the world olddots Aug 2013 #3
Definitely. Many of the shows now are nothing less than a cast of fools IMO. TV is the RKP5637 Aug 2013 #26
No, thy're the same as they always have been. They're just more public about it now. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #5
I think the Tea Party influence upon public dialog is diminishing daily. mick063 Aug 2013 #6
I don't think they have gotten any smarter. They still say the stupidest things I ever heard. B Calm Aug 2013 #8
Very much so. bearssoapbox Aug 2013 #9
To me, your last sentence really sums it up. I really think many teabaggers RKP5637 Aug 2013 #28
Yes but they have gone "Underground". eom. 4bucksagallon Aug 2013 #10
Particularly racists have gotten emboldened in tweets and unguarded remarks. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #11
I have noticed that too AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #15
Everything they represent, discuss, propose, and try to advance is always coated RKP5637 Aug 2013 #29
They no longer feel the need to put up a veneer of civility deutsey Aug 2013 #13
It is on about a three decade arc Cosmocat Aug 2013 #16
Yes, and now they claim that..... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #17
Great montage but.. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #38
They go by so fast..... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #42
The tea party seems to be going through Turbineguy Aug 2013 #18
Yes, as an example.. just yesterday Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #19
HATE. It's the glue that holds today's GOPee together. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #20
And Ignorance. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #21
And Bigotry. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #22
And Militant "Christianity." blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #23
And Money. Lots and lots of MONEY. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #24
oh. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #39
It serves a purpose. The crazier they act, the greater cover it provides Enthusiast Aug 2013 #25
Agree. In addition to pushing their own agenda they utterly neutralize a real progressive agenda by Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #31
Thanks. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #33
No JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #27
I think keeping the crowd worked up requires a relentless upping the ante in rhetoric Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #30
No, Kimi. They are just more open and blunt about their shit. Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #32
un. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #40
fei chang hao. wo de gao zhong de xue sheng shi hui lai ta men de shang ke Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #43
Worse? MyshkinCommaPrince Aug 2013 #34
Republicans have always been far right Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #35
There's more of them. kentuck Aug 2013 #36
Hobbits need more FOODD $$$$$$$. love that their crap costs the R social terrorists billions.. Sunlei Aug 2013 #37
Ideology wise, about the same but much meaner and much MUCH more vocal Populist_Prole Aug 2013 #41

TexasTowelie

(112,134 posts)
1. I voted not sure because I think their vile disgusting behavior has remained constant over time.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:01 AM
Aug 2013

I'm not surprised anymore by what they do and also see no hope that they might improve.

How have you been feeling AK? Are you holding steady since the last incident that you had about a month ago?

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
4. I spent the entire day at the hospital yesterday
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:11 AM
Aug 2013

They prescribed for me new heart medication, and are having me keep a diary of blood pressure, blood sugar, weight and all kinds of stuff. I have been given Nitroglycerin in case I have chest pains, and instructed how to use it..in case of emergencies.. I am trying to watch my sodium intake, (no more Soy Sauce or Miso Soup) and staying away from canned foods. Its a bit scary.. they said with my heart its probably genetic.. though I dun recall anyone in my immediate family having this problem, but they told me that maybe is goes back to an earlier generation.

Trying my best.. ganbarimasu ne !

TexasTowelie

(112,134 posts)
7. Oh my dear!
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:30 AM
Aug 2013

I was hoping to read that you were doing well and instead it appears that you are going through an ordeal. I admit that I'm not much of a fan of either soy sauce or miso soup, but if you are raised with it as a part of your diet then I'm certain it is a sacrifice to do without and have to contend with the cravings.

Oddly enough, I'm about to post a thread, but in light of your response I'll give you a preview. I have a suspicion that they won't be on your diet either.

Pepsi-Flavored Cheetos Now Exist

http://www.newser.com/story/172671/pepsi-flavored-cheetos-now-exist.html

Take care and keep us informed because you add so much coolness to DU. I'm a tall, skinny type-I diabetic so I can empathize with the blood pressure (usually too low), blood sugar (both hypoglycemic and hyperglycemic) and weight issues (I'm 6' 1" and my weight has ranged from 117 to 187 within the past five years). Good vibes are being sent in your direction.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
12. Kiyotsukite Asahinakimi dono. Ogenki narite.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:23 AM
Aug 2013

Boko no nihongo wa, mada jozu ja nai. Goman ne,

I can relate, my Dr. advised me to always carry aspirin with me and my rescue inhaler.

As too your post about Teabaggers; I think they have isolated themselves intentionally and in their isolation become emboldened by constant reinforcement of their message.

On a second sidenote; Romanjinized Japanese drives spellcheckers nuts.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
26. Definitely. Many of the shows now are nothing less than a cast of fools IMO. TV is the
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:08 AM
Aug 2013

enabler on the march to total "Idiocracy" in the US.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
6. I think the Tea Party influence upon public dialog is diminishing daily.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:15 AM
Aug 2013

An opinion based upon perception more than political bias.

Gerrymandering and religious activism will keep the Tea Party relevant in isolated regions and districts though.

The greatest danger to Republicans is gaining power. They are their own worst enemy. Republicans in power commonly create media images of dissent. Marches, protest, and social media events typically ensue when a super majority of Republicans are reached.

It is why political extortion using fear of GOP power doesn't work well with me. It won't take more than a couple terms for swing voters to run them out of office in areas that are not deep red due to a gun and/or religious agenda.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
9. Very much so.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:22 AM
Aug 2013

And getting more vocal about their views.

But what's really bad is that the GOP's supposed leadership haven't done anything to tone it down or correct the out and out lies and stupidity that are so common in every facet of teabaggery.

Some actually seem to embrace it and revel in it's idiocy.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
28. To me, your last sentence really sums it up. I really think many teabaggers
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:23 AM
Aug 2013

enjoy their ignorance and ridiculous political views ... and positions on life. ... and they reinforce each other. ... maybe the teabagger movement allows those of similar brain chemistry to clump together.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
29. Everything they represent, discuss, propose, and try to advance is always coated
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:26 AM
Aug 2013

in hatred, bigotry, bullying, racism and ignorance. They are a disgusting lot IMO.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
13. They no longer feel the need to put up a veneer of civility
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:24 AM
Aug 2013

like they used to when society leaned more to the left and they were seen as Archie Bunker-style buffoons.

With the left pretty much marginalized or vanquished, they've taken off their Reagan smiley mask to reveal who they really are.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
16. It is on about a three decade arc
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:54 AM
Aug 2013

It has been incremental, but they somehow find a way to outdo their stupidity a little bit more as time goes on.

People forget how bad the 90s where.

The 90s they were as bad as they are now, but it was not as united as it is now.

Bush/Cheney and 9-11 forced the party into complete unison.

And, as someone else has noted, over time they have give up even trying to act like they aren't raging jackasses.

There WAS a time in the 90s and early 2000s when they found a way to wrap some pretty sounding bullshit around their intensions, some catchy phrase or flag waving thing.

The biggest thing is, in the 90s, they pretty much were just parroting what the AM radio types were putting out. They did not think of what they were saying as actual reality, they just were hating on the evil liberal boogyman.

The biggest different now is that twits like Palin/Ryan/Rand Paul, ect they actually think all of the republican bullshit is actual reality.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
17. Yes, and now they claim that.....
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:19 AM
Aug 2013

...even their best sign-makers are losing their jobs to illegal immigrants.

- K&R

BTW: The SwordGirl.gif is awesome!

Hope you like this montage:
Action Women- Derezzed (Movie montage)



 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
42. They go by so fast.....
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:10 PM
Aug 2013

...but I think I saw her at 0:30, 0:58 and 1:03.

- But my eyes ain't as fast as they used to be!

Turbineguy

(37,320 posts)
18. The tea party seems to be going through
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:33 AM
Aug 2013

a process similar to visbreaking where the denser residual parts are left.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
19. Yes, as an example.. just yesterday
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:46 AM
Aug 2013

I was driving down the highway (I-696) and there was a group of them on an overpass with "Fire Obama" signs and Gadsden flags, waving to vehicles passing under them.

Why? I have no idea. I guess they just wanted attention.

Keep in mind this is in Detroit's north east suburbs. Besides the fact that we just had an election about 9 months ago and President Obama won 332-206, he won Michigan 54.3% to 44.8%. He even won the county I was in (Macomb) 51.6% to 47.6%.

I think this is worse than a few years ago. At least back then they would have some reason for a rally. This seems to be the political equivalent of a raised middle finger, so that is exactly what I stuck out the window in response as I passed by.


Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
25. It serves a purpose. The crazier they act, the greater cover it provides
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:03 AM
Aug 2013

for the Democratic side to move to the right.

"Our" side can always say, "Look, we are not at all crazy like those other guys. We are reasonable and pragmatic."

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
31. Agree. In addition to pushing their own agenda they utterly neutralize a real progressive agenda by
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:42 AM
Aug 2013

making something that is not progressive at all - but simply less reactionary sound radical leftist in comparison. This is probably not the best example and I don't want to violate Goodwin's Law - but even Mussolini would have sounded like a raving liberal if you put him next to Hitler.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
33. Thanks.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:06 AM
Aug 2013

Like the Affordable Care Act. They want us to think the ACA is some sort of wild eyed socialist plot to takeover the entire health care apparatus. While we should have had a single payer system modeled after one of the excellent Western European examples. It is becoming all too obvious.

I no longer concern myself with Goodwin's Law. It only serves those that don't want anyone to look too closely at the obvious 21st Century similarities to the early Third Reich.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
30. I think keeping the crowd worked up requires a relentless upping the ante in rhetoric
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:38 AM
Aug 2013

Like the way special effects in science fiction movies have to keep getting more jaw-dropping or a shock jock has to keep getting more outrageous.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
32. No, Kimi. They are just more open and blunt about their shit.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:54 AM
Aug 2013

BTW, I can't find the Asia Board. Could you PM please? I sort of enjoy posting there, as I live in Suzhou.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
43. fei chang hao. wo de gao zhong de xue sheng shi hui lai ta men de shang ke
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:55 AM
Aug 2013

suo yi, wo xu ya shang ban zai wo de gong zuo.

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
34. Worse?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:28 AM
Aug 2013

I don't think they've grown worse. I think their actual goals and ideas haven't changed much. They've become more overt and outspoken, deliberately obnoxious and vicious, however.

I think their side accomplishes several things by intensifying like this. They block new change in government and the culture, helping defend their gains of recent years while limiting Democratic accomplishments that they'll need to work against if and when they have greater direct governmental influence again. They help move the Democrats and the cultural discourse to the right. They block discussion of alternate ideas by being loud or shocking, thus dominating the discourse. They keep the various Republican factions focused and activated while that party has less power.

I think they also gain by keeping the culture as mean-spirited as possible, during this era. One of the first reasons that I favored Democrats over Republicans when I was younger, before I understood much of anything about politics or economics, was that the culture seemed notably (and unnecessarily) harsher and meaner whenever Republicans dominated government. If they keep the culture as mean-spirited as possible during a Democratic era, they can prevent anyone from favoring one party or another based on the broad cultural tone, or (if they become "nicer" once they have power again) invert that entire perception. I wouldn't be surprised if some deliberate effort to keep unemployment high and pay scales low during the Obama era plays a similar role of cultural manipulation.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. Republicans have always been far right
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:32 AM
Aug 2013

wing bigots of the first division. Some here will claim they 'used to be' better, or that Reagan was 'moderate' but those posters are either blind or they were voting for Ronnie and need to claim he was not what he was. He was a vicious conservative. Vicious.
Oh, and there is no such Party as 'Tea Party' they are all just Republicans, I do not play their game by pretending there are sane Republicans and then this crazy Tea Party. There is not a Tea Party, all of their 'members' are Republicans. They want you to say 'Tea Party'.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. Hobbits need more FOODD $$$$$$$. love that their crap costs the R social terrorists billions..
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:17 AM
Aug 2013

why won't the big-Rz pay their 'squidges' (republican stated name for their little r's)

thanks for the local economic boost republicans, hotels, pretty suits, open bars, benefits for all the republican tea party 'leaders' and a million a year for people like palin must add up to a lot of 'spending'

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
41. Ideology wise, about the same but much meaner and much MUCH more vocal
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:00 PM
Aug 2013

I'm hearing much more unsolicited spouting and politicization of every discussion about any thing the past few years too. They're obsessed. Like the adage "If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail".

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