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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:21 PM Aug 2013

Fall foliage is occurring all ready in Pleasanton, CA. Seasonal color changes

in August and unusually cooler weather, should give climate deniers in the SF Bay Area pause. But it won't this is a disturbing trend IMO. It's like mid-September has arrived a month too early. Opinions please?

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Fall foliage is occurring all ready in Pleasanton, CA. Seasonal color changes (Original Post) JRLeft Aug 2013 OP
no photos? AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #1
Here you go. JRLeft Aug 2013 #2
WOW...thanks.. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #4
It's 82 here today normally it's 95-100 plus in August. JRLeft Aug 2013 #6
wow.. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #9
I live in the city but work in Pleasanton. Alot overcast the last JRLeft Aug 2013 #10
October is the warmest month JRLeft Aug 2013 #11
I still think the fog makes SF such an awesome place burnodo Aug 2013 #14
Yeah days like today... AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #15
Thanks for the reminder burnodo Aug 2013 #17
I like the seals and the gulls. JRLeft Aug 2013 #19
Than you would love Pier 39!! AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #22
I spent a lot of time at pier 39. JRLeft Aug 2013 #24
If you like Seafood allow me reccomend .. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #28
Thanx but I'm a Vegan. I like go eat at Millennium the most off of Geary. JRLeft Aug 2013 #30
Cool. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #32
I have family and friends who eat seafood, my girlfriend and I are Vegans. JRLeft Aug 2013 #33
O No You cannot post this Phlem Aug 2013 #53
i thought the seals left Pier 39 in the past year CreekDog Aug 2013 #71
Last time I was there... AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #81
no, the average high in Livermore is 87-88 in August CreekDog Aug 2013 #70
No, average temps in August are high 80s. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #76
I live in western central NY state burnodo Aug 2013 #3
The plants think it's fall. JRLeft Aug 2013 #5
My roses have buds burnodo Aug 2013 #12
This is why I think the plants think it is fall. JRLeft Aug 2013 #13
Fall nighttime temps, yes. Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #21
Makes sense to me. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #46
we aren't having fall nighttime temperatures. CreekDog Aug 2013 #73
our daylight is far longer than fall right now CreekDog Aug 2013 #72
But the point of this thread was to point climate change. JRLeft Aug 2013 #7
Perhaps all the other deciduous trees are learning from California buckeye Brother Buzz Aug 2013 #8
I noticed the same thing in Florida. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #16
Our seasons must be changing, and rapidly. JRLeft Aug 2013 #20
Here's another. JRLeft Aug 2013 #18
That is unusual for Pleasanton... Eyerish Aug 2013 #23
Where are you located now? JRLeft Aug 2013 #25
I'm in Minnesota right now... Eyerish Aug 2013 #27
Hopefully you can make it back home. JRLeft Aug 2013 #29
I concur in my part of coastal Southern Cal...mornings unseasonably cool all month catzies Aug 2013 #26
The same thing happened here. Well July was hot, until the last week. JRLeft Aug 2013 #31
Speaking of interesting Julys, we didn't used to get monsoonal flows catzies Aug 2013 #34
It rained here in July too. JRLeft Aug 2013 #36
I like it though - those cool cloudy mornings that seem to be waking up at about the same calimary Aug 2013 #74
In Oregon too fredamae Aug 2013 #35
We've had cooler than normal temperatures here in the SF bay area. JRLeft Aug 2013 #37
Us too fredamae Aug 2013 #39
That's what happened in Ohio last year. a la izquierda Aug 2013 #49
Maine as well. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2013 #38
I've been loving this cool weather Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #40
I grew up in the town and Pittsburg. Normally Oakland gets a few days of 90 JRLeft Aug 2013 #41
Get a place that has good heating XemaSab Aug 2013 #67
Thanks! Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #68
Central NJ JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #42
Here in Wine Country, the nights have been really cool Link Speed Aug 2013 #43
I live next door in Dublin scorpiogirl Aug 2013 #44
I don't think there's anything *disturbing*, per se, about this *particular* thing, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #45
I don't think it's just a fluke with these ginormous storms. And lake Noth Pole now. I think it is JRLeft Aug 2013 #50
Well...... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #51
Well, in SoCal, it can actually get humid here now. calimary Aug 2013 #75
let us know when something climate related is disturbing to you CreekDog Aug 2013 #77
Because every little thing is automatically a result of climate change, amirite? AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #80
Same here in Pittsburgh, PA distantearlywarning Aug 2013 #47
Definitely strange for sure. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #52
wish that would hurry up and get here Egnever Aug 2013 #48
hey Phlem Aug 2013 #54
PS.. Phlem Aug 2013 #55
The climate deniers will deny until they are hit personally by it and even then the headnodders will JRLeft Aug 2013 #56
Hmmm... 2naSalit Aug 2013 #57
It's been mild in July and August locally nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #58
The same here, I think I read there were some that there were a ridiculous amount of wildfire last JRLeft Aug 2013 #59
Yup, we are above average last time I checked by 900 nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #60
Yeah, it's pretty scary. JRLeft Aug 2013 #61
The long range weather forecast was not nice nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #62
Hoprfully this is not a trend where seasons come earlier and earlier every year. JRLeft Aug 2013 #69
Probably not. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #79
Since we're talking about weather, Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #63
Sadly, Alaska will eventually warm up far beyond what you are used to up there and wildlife will pay JRLeft Aug 2013 #64
If we don't get poisoned by the methane first. Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #65
Yeah another issue with polar ice caps melting the fossiled methane gas will be released. JRLeft Aug 2013 #66
Everything has been a month early for the past year here shanti Aug 2013 #78

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
4. WOW...thanks..
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:47 PM
Aug 2013

I guess we are not exactly or in any way like New England are we?



I miss seeing that..But not the cold weather.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
9. wow..
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:56 PM
Aug 2013

I remember going to the Pleasanton county fair, a few years back. It had to have been in the 90s.. because I went though a lot of slush cones that day! Are you getting some of our San Francisco fog over there? Someone said that San Francisco is like a giant Air Conditioner, and much of our fog sweeps eastward across the bay to cool down some areas some times. Than again, you get places like Concord where it will get up to the 100's during the Summer. That hot and dry heat.

We have blue skies and overcast here in the city today..I hope it warms up, because usually during the Summer its cold as hell at night with the Fog Monster!

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
10. I live in the city but work in Pleasanton. Alot overcast the last
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:01 PM
Aug 2013

few days. Last week was foggy over here.

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
14. I still think the fog makes SF such an awesome place
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:04 PM
Aug 2013

when it breaks away, its like an instant transformation into late Spring

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
15. Yeah days like today...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:08 PM
Aug 2013

Make us look forward to October, when we actually have weather like Southern California..

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
24. I spent a lot of time at pier 39.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:41 PM
Aug 2013

I love dining in the China Basin. I am not a Giants fan but the area has grown since AT&T Park was built.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
32. Cool.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:00 PM
Aug 2013


Well if others are reading this post, and like Seafood its my favorite spot. One year for my birthday I had a lobster and dungeness crab and it was super! Of course, with all that melted butter, its no wonder I am presently having heart problems. Well, at least it was satisfying. I only did it once, and that was enough...

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
53. O No You cannot post this
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:27 PM
Aug 2013

and make us all drool. I could have that every birthday for the rest of my life!

There is how ever a soft spot in my heart for Filipino mud crabs in coconut reduction.

your plate looks yum!

-p

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
70. no, the average high in Livermore is 87-88 in August
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 11:48 PM
Aug 2013

the average includes some very hot days and some cooler days.

Pleasanton is among the hottest in the Bay Area but it's not as hot as Fresno, which averages 96-97 for an average August day.

also consider in what you're observing that: 1) we are in a drought 2) many trees you are looking at are non-native deciduous trees.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
76. No, average temps in August are high 80s.
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:37 AM
Aug 2013

That's true in the valleys from Concord to Dublin. There are heat waves where the temps spike up to 100+ and also occasional cooler spells. That's the pattern from July through September most years.

Last summer was MUCH cooler than this summer. That WAS an unusually cool summer. We also had a wet early winter and then nothing, which means that by this time of summer the ground is drier than normal. Unless those trees are irrigated they may be drought stressed.

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
3. I live in western central NY state
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:45 PM
Aug 2013

we have not had much of a summer...we had a heatwave of upper 80's low 90's with high humidity in late July, but the last 3, 4 weeks has seen highs in the low 70's and lows in the low 50's

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
21. Fall nighttime temps, yes.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:32 PM
Aug 2013

Weather happens.

The positioning of the jet stream is giving parts of Europe warmer than usual summer temps and parts of the US very cool summer temps.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
46. Makes sense to me.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:23 PM
Aug 2013

Where I am(northern Texas, just due north of Dallas), the weather's been pretty much normal this year....and, with maybe a few small exceptions, so has most of the rest of the U.S. as far as it can be seen; it seems like only the West has had any real weirdness to deal with so far(the extreme cold in the Rockies in Jan., the Central Valley's unusually hot summer, etc.).

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
72. our daylight is far longer than fall right now
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 11:57 PM
Aug 2013

and our nighttime temperatures are not much different from average, and average nighttime temperatures have increased for decades in the Bay Area, even as our summer high temperatures have decreased slightly in recent years.

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
8. Perhaps all the other deciduous trees are learning from California buckeye
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:56 PM
Aug 2013

The California buckeye is totally in sync to California climate; it's first to sprout leaves in late winter, and first to lose leaves in late summer

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
16. I noticed the same thing in Florida.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:13 PM
Aug 2013

It's hot and muggy, but I saw blooms in the Redbud tree a few weeks ago. And the red firespike that isn't suppose to bloom until Fall is in full bloom. It's HOT! It makes no sense why these plants would be blooming.

Eyerish

(1,495 posts)
23. That is unusual for Pleasanton...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:39 PM
Aug 2013

On a side note: I used to work in that same business park. I miss CA.

Eyerish

(1,495 posts)
27. I'm in Minnesota right now...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:46 PM
Aug 2013

My Husband is from here. I'm originally from So Cal and went to college in the East Bay. If we could afford to move back to CA we would in an instant.

catzies

(8,093 posts)
26. I concur in my part of coastal Southern Cal...mornings unseasonably cool all month
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:43 PM
Aug 2013

Seems we had summer in March-April, then of course June gloom for months, but the sycamores and white birch in my yard are losing their leaves right now! Forecast is for early raking; normally a thing I don't have to do until November.

catzies

(8,093 posts)
34. Speaking of interesting Julys, we didn't used to get monsoonal flows
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:22 PM
Aug 2013

That used to only occur in the southeastern interior deserts.

This year and last, especially, the monsoonal flow reached more northward, and occurred more often.

I mean, we had RAIN! In Southern California! In JULY!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
74. I like it though - those cool cloudy mornings that seem to be waking up at about the same
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:00 AM
Aug 2013

rate of speed (negligible) as I am at that moment. It never stays June-gloomy long enough for me! I start withering in the heat.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
39. Us too
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:03 PM
Aug 2013

Where I live--it can be unbearably humid/hot one day and the next--gotta turn on the heat to get warm...nights in the mid-50's-60's near the beach is uncommon...but happening regularly the past couple years.
Blackberries are half the size they were last year-everything has ripened about 3 weeks early.
This is the driest year in Oregon, I understand-ever.
This past month-we've had little sun, dry, muggy cloudy days. A tad bit of rain. I'm inland just a bit. Not normal.
We have hardly any bees around this year to boot.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
40. I've been loving this cool weather
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:17 PM
Aug 2013

we had this past week. Of course today, it's back to being in the low-to-mid 80s this afternoon in Oakland. But when it was cooler last week, I wasn't randomly sweating during the day, and it was cool enough at one point to where I didn't need to leave the patio door open.
Either way, I had better not get used to this warm weather for too much longer because this Saturday, it'll be time for me to go away to HSU. Coastal Humboldt, such as Arcata and Eureka, is known for having gray and cool weather almost all year. Even when I visited last month, it was only in the low 60s. I check the temperatures there sometimes for the Hell of it, and it is rare that I see the coastal towns reach the 70 degree mark. They give SF a run for its money when it comes to having cool summers.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
41. I grew up in the town and Pittsburg. Normally Oakland gets a few days of 90
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:32 PM
Aug 2013

plus hasn't really happened this year.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
67. Get a place that has good heating
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:36 AM
Aug 2013

and invest in some good cold-weather clothes.

YOU WILL BE COLD A LOT.

And enjoy HSU.

JustAnotherGen

(31,812 posts)
42. Central NJ
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:27 PM
Aug 2013

One of the trees is slowly turning yellow. I think Fall is coming earlier this year. I just hope we done get a Major storm again this year.

scorpiogirl

(717 posts)
44. I live next door in Dublin
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:09 PM
Aug 2013

But I lived in Pleasanton from 2001-2009. Usually it is super hot this time of year but its been mild. Today, however, it's hot and muggy which isn't usual for us.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
45. I don't think there's anything *disturbing*, per se, about this *particular* thing, TBH.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:19 PM
Aug 2013

Certainly is strange, though, given that the middle of summer just gave way to late summer up there. Probably just a fluke, though:

http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/USCA0882




 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
50. I don't think it's just a fluke with these ginormous storms. And lake Noth Pole now. I think it is
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:54 PM
Aug 2013

a clear sign of the climate changing.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
51. Well......
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:01 PM
Aug 2013

I can see where you're coming from in regards to the North Pole, as I don't think anyone here will argue that Co2 output & certain other human activities are the primary driver of the ice melt from what we can see.....but I really don't think the unusual coolness in Nor. Cal. this year, is *necessarily* connected to climate change(though I guess we'll have to wait a while).

calimary

(81,220 posts)
75. Well, in SoCal, it can actually get humid here now.
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:05 AM
Aug 2013

I CLEARLY remember when my family and I moved out here from the Midwest when I was nine. First thing my mother noticed was there wasn't any humidity - which could be unbearable back there. The difference was rather stark! Now, it can get comparatively thick and sticky here. A friend of mine was staying out here with us for a few days last week and she remarked on how humid it was. Disquieting, to say the least. It's been growing more humid here in SoCal over the last decade or so. I find it troubling.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
77. let us know when something climate related is disturbing to you
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:29 AM
Aug 2013

we anxiously await that very special moment, if it ever happens.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
80. Because every little thing is automatically a result of climate change, amirite?
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 02:00 AM
Aug 2013

I'll tell you what *does* disturb me, though: Arctic ice melt. Now *that* can only be fully explained with Co2 output and certain other human activities.....

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
47. Same here in Pittsburgh, PA
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:41 PM
Aug 2013

Weirdest summer we've had since I moved here 10 years ago.

I didn't get any vegetables at all this year. Usually I get so many squashes I can't eat them all. This year, not one. One solitary tomato from the tomato plant, that's it. All my perennial flowers still look like they do in early May - small, not very many blooms.

We had a very late spring, only about 2 weeks of "normal" summer, and now we're having a very early fall. The trees are even starting to turn, approximately 5 weeks early. It's bizarre.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
52. Definitely strange for sure.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:03 PM
Aug 2013

Sorry about that, btw.....we haven't had too many issues here in TX, though.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
54. hey
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:37 PM
Aug 2013

it's happening up here in Washington State too. My fall trees are already in late summer to fall mode. It was a dry winter (I think 1 day of snow), and a very dry summer. If it wasn't for my sprinkler system and a few others the cul de sac would look like Arizona.

Oh No, there is no climate change

-p

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
56. The climate deniers will deny until they are hit personally by it and even then the headnodders will
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:03 AM
Aug 2013

deny climate change is real. They will just say no man can affect the weather.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
58. It's been mild in July and August locally
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:06 AM
Aug 2013

but we had October fires in May June, as early as April actually.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
59. The same here, I think I read there were some that there were a ridiculous amount of wildfire last
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:22 AM
Aug 2013

year and so far this year.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
60. Yup, we are above average last time I checked by 900
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:27 AM
Aug 2013

I am afraid to look at Cal Fire news, to be honest. And I cover this crap.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
62. The long range weather forecast was not nice
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:31 AM
Aug 2013

I need to look at it soon too.

On the bright side, we have had a few quiet weeks... after the Chariot fire... I did not want to think Summer...

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
79. Probably not.
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:58 AM
Aug 2013

It would take something truly monumental for something like that to happen(such as a shift in Earth's orbiting patterns), if you're talking about every season.....TBH, that's not something climate change can really do consistently.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
63. Since we're talking about weather,
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:32 AM
Aug 2013

Anchorage is finally back to normal with cooler weather and rainy days after one of our hottest, driest summers on record. My garden is wonderful, the best in years. Some of my cool weather perennials (Tibetan poppies and one delphinium) took a hit, but hopefully they'll be back next year.

Weather's been weird up here for a few years. We don't know quite what to expect this winter.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
64. Sadly, Alaska will eventually warm up far beyond what you are used to up there and wildlife will pay
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:34 AM
Aug 2013

the ultimate price.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
65. If we don't get poisoned by the methane first.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:40 AM
Aug 2013

I was dying with the 80+ -degree days in June and July. Just too, too strange.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
78. Everything has been a month early for the past year here
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:32 AM
Aug 2013

I'm in Sacramento and had tomatoes in May. They were done by Aug 1. Never saw that before...

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