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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:44 PM Aug 2013

Rand Paul Doesn’t ‘Think Shutting Down The Government Is A Good Idea’ But He’ll Do It Anyway

Rand Paul Doesn’t ‘Think Shutting Down The Government Is A Good Idea’ But He’ll Do It Anyway

By Annie-Rose Strasser

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said on Sunday that he doesn’t think it’s a good idea to shut down the government over the funding of Obamacare, but that he is hoping his party does it anyway.

Paul has been one of the leading people calling on Congress to block a resolution that would fund the government unless money for Obamacare is not included in the bill. He was one of the fifteen senators to sign onto a letter vowing to block funding the health care law. But on Sunday, Paul told Fox News Sunday that, “I don’t think shutting down the government is a good idea.”

Still, Paul went on, “I do think that we were elected, conservatives were elected, to try to stop this overreach, this government takeover of healthcare,” and so “we should use the leverage of controlling one-third of the government… to at the very least make that law less bad, delay it, do something we can to protect the American public from the law.”

Acknowledging that support for a shutdown isn’t broad enough in the Senate, Paul said that his colleagues in the House of Representatives should instead be the ones to make defunding the health law a priority: “We don’t control all of the government, but Republicans control the House of Representatives, they should stand up, use that power to at the very least make that law less bad, delay it, do something we can to protect the American public from the law,” Paul said. If the Republicans in the House try to defund the law, the two chambers of Congress could conference on a bill that may defund some parts of Obamacare. The House of Representatives has voted 40 times to repeal the Affordable Care Act, but have never been successful, and Republicans have not presented an alternative bill.

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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/08/18/2484891/rand-paul-shutdown-backtrack/

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Rand Paul Doesn’t ‘Think Shutting Down The Government Is A Good Idea’ But He’ll Do It Anyway (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2013 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #1
Don't care what Rand Paul thinks. Can't understand why it is even posted. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #2
Wait? ProSense Aug 2013 #3
I don't click on your links as I have told you before Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #4
OK, you don't "give a shit," so why bother commenting at all? ProSense Aug 2013 #5
Just to let you know that they don't give a shit.. Cha Aug 2013 #7
Because we know the republicans are thinking about shutting down govt or not Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #14
Criticizing Republicans is one of the main purposes of the site. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #19
I am sorry. Did I address you? "Our problem"? Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #25
perhaps this is really a de-facto anti Greenwald thread Swagman Aug 2013 #42
Fuck Rand Paul zappaman Aug 2013 #6
Fuck Ron Paul, too. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #30
Unsolicited advice MFrohike Aug 2013 #8
"I suspect you'll end up driving more people to him than away from him with these repeated threads." ProSense Aug 2013 #9
Ok MFrohike Aug 2013 #16
Do you seriously believe a person who advocates against health care for all Americans is attractive ProSense Aug 2013 #20
Oh boy MFrohike Aug 2013 #22
Leave Rand alone!!!! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #24
Or MFrohike Aug 2013 #27
Or I could say Fuck Rand Paul. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #28
K&R stonecutter357 Aug 2013 #36
Leave Rand aloooooone!!!! nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #17
Please make a meme image with that! freshwest Aug 2013 #21
I have no photoshop skills. Can barely touch up the ones I take nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #23
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT RAND PAUL SAYS! Quantess Aug 2013 #10
We've always been at war with Rand Paul DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #11
He's going to be a major contender for the Republican nomination in 2016. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #18
Sure, just like his Dad was. eyeroll nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #26
Rand Paul is such an asshole.. and only assholes could support him. yeah, Cha Aug 2013 #12
Yikes! ProSense Aug 2013 #13
Trying to look reasonable? Andy823 Aug 2013 #15
Rand Paul is human garbage NoPasaran Aug 2013 #29
His Assholiness speaks again! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #31
His Assholines! Perfect for that POS. freshwest Aug 2013 #32
He sure does own that title, does he not, freshwest?! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #35
Ah, yes the petutlant child of Ron Paul, Historic NY Aug 2013 #33
That's because he is an idiot. Rex Aug 2013 #34
Libertarian, Teabag .... all the same insanity. nt broadcaster75201 Aug 2013 #37
If it wasn't for the pain to innocent people, I'd support that. lark Aug 2013 #38
One thing Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #39
That's what I call real bi-partisan determination, right there. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #40
fuck Rand JI7 Aug 2013 #41

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. Wait?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:32 PM
Aug 2013

"Don't care what Rand Paul thinks. Can't understand why it is even posted. "

...you "can't understand" why a Think Progress post calling out a Senate Republican on the issue of shutting down the government is posted?

Really?

There are baffling posts (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023479770), but the OP isn't one of them.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
4. I don't click on your links as I have told you before
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:44 PM
Aug 2013

I am in this thread. I will discuss information in this thread.
And no, he is a blip on the radar, a nothing. I care nothing for what he says. I don't dignify any of his statements with a response except to say I could give a shit what he thinks.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. OK, you don't "give a shit," so why bother commenting at all?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:50 PM
Aug 2013

Also, you claimed you "can't understand" why it was posted. Why?

"I don't click on your links as I have told you before"

Maybe you should have avoided the OP.

Cha

(297,150 posts)
7. Just to let you know that they don't give a shit..
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:56 PM
Aug 2013

thought you'd be interested. rofl

Defensive about rand paul since ol julian(Ignorant Obama hater) came out and supports him in 2016?

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
14. Because we know the republicans are thinking about shutting down govt or not
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:11 PM
Aug 2013

and that there is an internal fight about it. That is a great topic of conversation and has been discussed here a lot. If every other post lately
did not mention one of the Pauls it might be palatable but I have soured beyond reason on caring what any of them say. It seems to almost be an obsession to mention them as frequently as possible here and to give them importance miles beyond what either of them merit. I don't understand it. Perhaps you can enlighten me on why you post frequently about them? It might help me to understand.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. Criticizing Republicans is one of the main purposes of the site.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:35 PM
Aug 2013

Sorry you don't like to see Republicans criticized, but that's not our problem.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
25. I am sorry. Did I address you? "Our problem"?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:26 PM
Aug 2013

I have no problem criticizing republicans. I am asking about the Paul father and son obsession. Every other post seems to mention them like they are magicians or boogeymen. Everyone knows they are spits in the wind with little to no actual power in the big picture. I am trying to understand the phenomena.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
8. Unsolicited advice
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:57 PM
Aug 2013

I suspect you'll end up driving more people to him than away from him with these repeated threads. The repeated invocations of his name is getting creepy.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. "I suspect you'll end up driving more people to him than away from him with these repeated threads."
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:59 PM
Aug 2013

Well, then they deserve Rand Paul.

I'll continue calling him out. It would be good if he lost his Senate seat.

Fuck Rand Paul.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. Do you seriously believe a person who advocates against health care for all Americans is attractive
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:42 PM
Aug 2013

to most people?



MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
27. Or
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:32 PM
Aug 2013

You could go outside, get some fresh air, and realize the world doesn't revolve a hypocritical moron with bad hair. Your choice.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
21. Please make a meme image with that!
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:51 PM
Aug 2013


LEAVE RAND PAUL ALONE!




Can't make these for some reason, unfortunately.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
10. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT RAND PAUL SAYS!
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:01 PM
Aug 2013

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HIS ANNOYING DAD, EITHER!

Please excuse my language, but this father & son Paul team is getting on my last nerve.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
11. We've always been at war with Rand Paul
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:02 PM
Aug 2013

Be careful not to inflate this little twerp all out of proportion in your quest to create linkages that don't exist. Check the literary reference for more details.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. He's going to be a major contender for the Republican nomination in 2016.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:34 PM
Aug 2013

So, yeah, we should soften the creepy lunatic up whenever we get the chance.

Cha

(297,150 posts)
12. Rand Paul is such an asshole.. and only assholes could support him. yeah,
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:05 PM
Aug 2013

looking at you, assange.

I can't stand to look at his GD face.



h/t HarveyDarkey http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023480397

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
15. Trying to look reasonable?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:13 PM
Aug 2013

I think he is simply trying to come off as "not as crazy" as he really is. He will need to gain more voters than his Dad's followers, so in order to do that he has to come off as half way sane. He will say anything to get votes and like Romney, he will change his view on a daily bases depending on who he is talking to at the moment.

Just like his dad, he can't be trusted.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
31. His Assholiness speaks again!
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:02 PM
Aug 2013


The Top 10 Reasons Rand Paul should never start a sentence, 'Had I been president ...'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/24/1181630/-The-Top-10-Reasons-Rand-Paul-should-never-start-a-sentence-Had-I-been-president

No doubt you've seen Sen. Rand Paul's made-for-TV tantrum yesterday at the U.S. Senate's Benghazi hearing. When the Kentucky senator had his turn to question Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, he said:

"I'm glad that you're accepting responsibility. I think ultimately with your leaving that you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11. And I really mean that. Had I been president and found you did not read the cables from Benghazi and from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post. I think it's inexcusable."


Setting aside Sen. Paul's thickheaded and insensitive remark that the murder of four Americans in Libya is "the worst tragedy since 9/11"—worse, for example, than 4,000 Americans killed in a pointless and costly war—his tea party toadying, "Had I been president," should not pass without comment.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
33. Ah, yes the petutlant child of Ron Paul,
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:36 PM
Aug 2013

the Congressman who produced one piece of legislation that passed...

To authorize the Administrator of General Services to convey a parcel of real property in Galveston, Texas, to the Galveston Historical Foundation.


lark

(23,091 posts)
38. If it wasn't for the pain to innocent people, I'd support that.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:11 PM
Aug 2013

Halfassed, backhanded support that is! I'd support it in one sense because it will piss people off at the R's and make it more likely we can win back the House and actually get America moving forward again. Of course, it's the insane course of action, and hurts the country and economy so would be totally reprehensible, but what else have we come to expect from the Teahadists in congress?

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
39. One thing
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 04:13 PM
Aug 2013

that still really nags me about all of this is that if the Tea-fiends hate government so much and want to shut it down, what the Frick are they doing in it besides getting a salary, kickbacks, benefits, and health insurance?

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