Harry Reid: I think Snowden is a traitor

[ProSense]

Q: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has said National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. Do you agree?

A: I think Snowden is a traitor, and I think he has hurt our country, and I hope someday he is brought to justice.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/18/harry-reid-health-law-snowden/2669181/

[Tx4obama]

1. Julian Assange Praises ‘Innovator’ Matt Drudge, ‘Principled’ Rand Paul

Julian Assange Praises ‘Innovator’ Matt Drudge, ‘Principled’ Rand Paul

Friday morning, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange participated in an online chat session hosted by Campus Reform, in which he offered up some special praise for conservatives Matt Drudge and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY). Assange applauded The Drudge Report for disrupting the “self-censorship of the establishment press” and held up Paul as one of the most “principled” members of the U.S. Congress.

Responding to questions from Campus Reform editor-in-chief Josiah Ryan, Assange began by calling Drudge a “news media innovator” who has been on the rise since the Monica Lewinsky scandal. “It is as a result of the self-censorship of the establishment press in the United States that gave Matt Drudge such a platform,” Assange said, “and so of course he should be applauded for breaking a lot of that censorship.”

He also noted that social media has supplanted much of what Drudge is known for, which he described as “collecting interesting rumors that looked like they might be true and publishing them.” Assange said he only agrees with “some” of Drudge’s political opinions.

“I am a big admirer of Ron Paul and Rand Paul for their very principled positions in the U.S. Congress on a number of issues,” Assange said, saying they have been some of his “strongest supporters” when it comes to attacks on WikiLeaks. He called the position of the “libertarian Republican right” an “interesting phenomenon.” He pointed out that they principle of “non-violence” could include being against both drone warfare and abortion.

-snip-

http://www.mediaite.com/online/julian-assange-praises-innovator-matt-drudge-principled-rand-paul/

[pnwmom]

2. And Assange praised Libertarian Republicans as the "only hope" for the U.S. n/t

[Marr]

13. Obama praises Ronald Reagan for taking on the "excesses of the 60's and 70's".

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/us/politics/21seelye-text.html

[chimpymustgo]

3. Harry Reid: worthless piece of shit??? He WISHES he had Snowden's balls.

[dionysus]

30. snowden has so much balls he fled to russia to avoid arrest...

[Dawson Leery]

4. Assange's Wikileaks party supports far right extremists on ballot preferences.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/rightwing-parties-wikileaks-preferences

http://ausvotes2013.com/2013/08/18/the-wikileaks-party-lurches-to-the-right-preferences-fascists-mens-righters-and-gun-lovers-above-the-greens/

Wikileaks party gives preference to white nationalist "Australia First" party:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/wikileaks-attacked-for-directing-preferences-to-rightwing-parties-20130819-2s5ng.html

[leveymg]

5. I think Harry Reid has been a piss poor Majority Leader and should be retired from that post.

Not just because of this expression of extraordinary lack of political acumen, of course. Nonetheless, the American people increasingly disagree with the national political leadership, and there's a sea change going on. Harry doesn't seem to have a clue, as usual.

[Common Sense Party]

51. I think Reid is a reckless jerk who caused my former employer to tank.

Loose lips sink ships, and clueless Harry has the loosest.

[michigandem58]

7. DU Rec

At some point the Demotarians will realize they have been duped?

[railsback]

42. Not going to happen anytime soon.

It takes balls to admit being duped.

[bowens43]

8. Why don't you give it up? You look foolish and sad

[Egnever]

11. I would guess the main reason is

It drives folks like you apeshit.

[SidDithers]

20. Which is freakin' awesome...

Sid

[Pretzel_Warrior]

37. Yup!

[Logical]

28. She loves the attention. n-t

[Bonobo]

38. Please don't make her stop.

It's better than the Onion for laughs.

[ProSense]

40. Actually,

"It's better than the Onion for laughs."

...I'd say the Guardian misrepresenting John Lewis was like the "Onion"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023422546

Rep. John Lewis: No Praise for Snowden
Aug 8, 2013

“News reports about my interview with The Guardian are misleading, and they do not reflect my complete opinion. Let me be clear. I do not agree with what Mr. Snowden did. He has damaged American international relations and compromised our national security. He leaked classified information and may have jeopardized human lives. That must be condemned.

“ I never praised Mr. Snowden or said his actions rise to those of Mohandas Gandhi or other civil rights leaders. In fact, The Guardian itself agreed to retract the word “praise” from its headline.

“At the end of an interview about the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, I was asked what I thought about Mr. Snowden’s actions. I said he has a right as an individual to act according to the dictates of his conscience, but he must be prepared to pay the price for taking that action. In the movement, we were arrested, we went to jail, we were prepared to pay the price, even lose our lives if necessary. I cannot say and I did not say that what Mr. Snowden did is right. Others will be the judge of that.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023427908

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Politician Harry Reid vs Danel Ellsberg, the ACLU, Amnesty International, and 158 others.

http://www.article19.org/resources.php/resource/37194/en/letter-to-obama-to-stop-the-prosecution-of-snowden

1. ARTICLE 19 (International)

2. ACCUN - Tunisian Digital Culture (Tunisia)

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4. Afghanistan Journalists Center (Afghanistan)

5. Africa Freedom of Information Centre (Uganda)

6. Ain-O-Shalish Kendra (Bangladesh)

7. Albanian Helsinki Committee (Albania)

8. Albanian Media Institute (Albania)

9. Aliansi Jurnalis Independen (Indonesia)

10. Alliance National Timor Leste for International Tribunal (ANTI) (Timor Leste)

11. Alternative Informatics Association (Turkey)

12. ANDI - Communication and Rights (Brazil)

13. Asian Forum for Human Rights and Development (FORUM-ASIA) (Asia)

14. Asociacion por los Derechos Civiles (Argentina)

15. Associação Brasileira de Centros de Inclusão Digital - ABCID (Brazil)

16. Association "Yakadha" for democracy and Civil State (Tunisia)

17. Association for Freedom of Thought and Expression (Egypt)

18. Association for Progressive Communications (International)

19. Association of Human Rights Monitors on Law Enforcement (Ukraine)

20. ATL MST/SIDA (Tunisia)

21. Bahrain Center for Human Rights (Bahrain)

22. Balkan Investigative Reporting Network (Kosovo)

23. Banglar Manabadhikar Suraksha Mancha (MASUM) (India)

24. Bolo Bhi (Pakistan)

25. Bulgarian Helsinki Committee (Bulgaria)

26. Burma Partnership (Burma)

27. Bytes for All (Pakistan)

28. Cambodian Center for Human Rights (CCHR) (Cambodia)

29. Canadian Journalists for Free Expression (Canada)

30. Cartoonists Rights Network International (International)

31. Catalan PEN (Spain)

32. Center for Development and Democratization of Institutions (Albania)

33. Center for Independent Journalism (Romania)

34. Center for National and International Studies (Azerbaijan)

35. Center for the Development of Democracy and Human Rights (Russia)

36. Centre for Independent Journalism (Malaysia)

37. Centre for Internet and Society (India)

38. Centre for Law and Democracy (Canada)

39. Centre for Participatory Research and Development (Bangladesh)

40. Centro de Archivos y Acceso a la Información Pública (Uruguay)

41. Centro de Cultura Luiz Freire (Brazil)

42. Centro de Estudos da Mídia Alternativa Barão de Itararé (Brazil)

43. Centro de Reportes Informativos sobre Guatemala (CERIGUA) (Guatemala)

44. Centro Internacional de Estudios Superiores de Comunicación para América Latina (CIESPAL) (Ecuador)

45. Centro Nacional de Comunicación Social (Mexico)

46. ChangeMaker (Bangladesh)

47. Christian Media Network (South Korea)

48. Civil Coalition for the Defence of Freedom of Expression (Tunisia)

49. COAST (Bangladesh)

50. Computer professionals for peace and social responsibility (FIfF) (Germany)

51. Derechos Digitales (Chile)

52. Digitalcourage e.V. (Germany)

53. Electronic Frontier Finland (Finland)

54. Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) (USA)

55. English PEN (UK)

56. Equity BD (Bangladesh)

57. Finnish PEN (Finland)

58. Föreningen för Digitala Fri- och Rättigheter (Sweden)

59. Foro de Periodismo Argentino (Argentina)

60. Foundation for Regional Initiatives (Ukraine)

61. Freedom of information and expression - Marroco (Morocco)

62. Freedom of the Press Foundation (USA)

63. Fundación para la Libertad de Prensa (Foundation for Press Freedom) (Colombia)

64. German PEN Centre (Germany)

65. Globe International Center (Mongolia)

66. Government Accountability Project (GAP) (USA)

67. GPOPAI - Grupo de Pesquisa em Políticas Públicas para o Acesso à Informação da Universidade de São Paulo (Brazil)

68. Grupo Medios y Sociedad (GMS) (Uruguay)

69. Helsinki Citizens' Assembly - Vanadzor (Armenia)

70. Helsinki committee of Armenia (Armenia)

71. Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights (Poland)

72. Hong Kong Journalists Association (Hong Kong)

73. Human Rights Center (Uganda)

74. Human Rights Center of Azerbaijan (Azerbaijan)

75. Human Rights Club (Azerbaijan)

76. Human Rights Monitoring Institute (Lithuania)

77. Human Rights Network for Journalists (Uganda)

78. Imparsial- The Indonesian Human Rights Monitor (Indonesia)

79. Independent Journalism Center (Moldova)

80. Index on Censorship (UK)

81. Indonesia Legal Aid Foundation (YLBHI) (Indonesia)

82. Initiative for Freedom of Expression (Turkey)

83. INSEC- Informal Sector Service Center (Nepal)

84. Institute for Contemporary Social and Political Studies (Slovenia)

85. Institute for the Studies on Free Flow of Information (Indonesia)

86. Institute of Mass Information (Ukraine)

87. Instituto Bem-Estar Brasil (Brazil)

88. International Youth Human Rights Movement (Russia)

89. Intervozes (Brazil)

90. IPHR - International Partnership for Human Rights (Belgium)

91. Iraqi Journalists Rights Defense Association (Iraq)

92. IT-Politisk Forening (Denmark)

93. Judicial System Monitoring Program (JSMP) (Timor Leste)

94. Kazakhstan International Bureau for Human Rights and Rule of Law (Kazakhstan)

95. KontraS (Commission for the Disappeared and Victims of Violence) (Indonesia)

96. KRF Public Alternative (Ukraine)

97. La Quadrature du Net (France)

98. Law and Society Trust (LST) (Sri Lanka)

99. Law, Internet and Society Nucleous - University of São Paulo (Brazil)

100. MADA Center (Palestine)

101. Mass Media Defence Centre (Russia)

102. Media Defence - Southeast Asia (MDSEA) (Asia)

103. Media Institute of Southern Africa (South Africa)

104. Media Rights Agenda (Nigeria)

105. Media, Entertainment & Arts Alliance (Australia)

106. Moscow Helsinki Group (Russia)

107. National Union of Somali Journalists (NUSOJ) (Somalia)

108. National Union of Tunisian Journalists SNJT (Tunisia)

109. New Zealand PEN Centre (New Zealand)

110. Norwegian PEN (Norway)

111. Notabene (Tajikistan)

112. Odhikar (Bangladesh)

113. Open Rights Group (UK)

114. Pakistan Press Foundation (Pakistan)

115. Panoptykon Foundation (Poland)

116. Panos Eastern Africa (East Africa)

117. Paradigm Initiative Nigeria (Nigeria)

118. PEN Canada (Canada)

119. PEN Center USA (USA)

120. PEN International (International)

121. PEN International's Swiss Romand Center (Switzerland)

122. PEN Melbourne (Australia)

123. PEN Palestine (Palestine)

124. PEN Turkey Centre (Turkey)

125. People in Need (Czech Republic)

126. People's Solidarity for Participatory Democracy (Center for Whistleblowers Support) (South Korea)

127. People's Vigilance Committee on Human Rights (PVCHR) (India)

128. Plataforma Interamericana de Derechos Humanos, Democracia y Desarrollo (PIDHDD) (Ecuador)

129. Portuguese PEN Centre (Portugal)

130. Press Union and Audiovisual of Djibouti (SPAD) (Djibouti)

131. Privacy International (International)

132. Pro Media (Macedonia)

133. Public Association "Journalists" (Kyrgyzstan)

134. Reporters Without Borders (France)

135. Russian PEN (Russia)

136. Samoa Observer (Samoa)

137. Samuelson-Glushko Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) (Canada)

138. San Miguel PEN center (Mexico)

139. Scottish PEN (UK)

140. SonTusDatos (Mexico)

141. South African PEN Centre (South Africa)

142. South East European Network for Professionalization of Media (Europe)

143. SUARAM (Suara Rakyat Malaysia) (Malaysia)

144. Swiss German PEN Center (Switzerland)

145. Taiwan Association for Human Rights (TAHR) (Taiwan)

146. Tanzania Human Rights Defenders’ Coalition (Tanzania)

147. The Institute for Reporters' Freedom and Safety (Azerbaijan)

148. Think Centre (Singapore)

149. Tunis Centre for Freedom of the Press (Tunisia)

150. Tunisian engineers council (Tunisia)

151. Tunisian Association of Women Lawyer (Tunisia)

152. Tunisian Union of Free Radios STRL (Tunisia)

153. Uganda Journalists Union (Uganda)

154. Union of Independent Newspapers (Tunisia)

155. Vrijschrift (Netherlands)

156. West African Journalists Association (West Africa)

157. World Association of Community Radio Broadcasters (AMARC) (International)

158. Associação Nacional para o Software Livre (Portugal)

[michigandem58]

15. You have no clue who most of those organizations are

But it's a long list!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

44. Perhaps. But, I do know that Harry Reid is a self-serving politician.

[Le Taz Hot]

25. But them are all "feriners"

so they don't count. Seriously, AWESOME list!

[Logical]

32. Snowden made Obama react to NSA abuses! He won! n-t

[lumpy]

35. LOL, I am impressed

n

[DJ13]

10. The real traitors are those who enabled these programs

You wouldnt happen to know who that might be, would you Senator?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

12. Harry we-shouldn't-have-real-filibusters Reid thinks so? Uh, so what?

[rug]

14. Breaking news: Harry Reid agrees with Mitch McConnell.

[bvar22]

57. Breaking news: Harry Reid agrees with Mitch McConnell..... AGAIN!

*

[UTUSN]

16. R#7 & K for, I love Harry REID. In '01 when Shrub was couped-in I heard this voice

say, "He's a LIAR." And it was Harry talking about Shrub. Nobody else besides most of us here was saying that.


Look, it ain't easy dealing with this built-in system without a sweeping majority. Until we get an FDR or LBJ, it's HARD, o.k.?!1

[pscot]

17. Let us know when you're done

We need this closet for the brooms and such.

[Bonobo]

18. And I think Harry Reid is a traitor.

He has been a partner-in-crime with the other side in taking away one of the key elements of our Legislative system which states that a law is to be passed by a majority of Congress (50 votes).

That is no small thing.

Let me repeat. That is no small thing.

It has done more to undermine the will of the people than could be accomplished by a million Snowdens.

[NuclearDem]

19. Are we really going to get new OPs every time a (D) says bad things/

an (R) says something good about Snowden?

Look, we get it. You don't like Snowden, and you're insistent that anyone who does is anti-Democrat and pro-Republican.

[CakeGrrl]

27. Suppressing diversity of opinion?

I see people saying "throw the bum out" about the President of the United States.

But a high-profile figure weighs in on Snowden and reporting it gets picked on? Okay.

[Logical]

29. Lol, 10,000 posts on the exact same topic is diversity? n-t

[NuclearDem]

31. No, calling out bullshit perceived personality worship and actual blind allegiance

I really could give less shit about what someone with a D, R, or L after their name thinks of Snowden the person, because I frankly don't give a shit about Snowden the person.

[ProSense]

34. Remember when John Lewis' comment was misrepresented?

Then reality kicked in.

[Th1onein]

47. I think my computer has a glitch or Ignore is screwed up or something.

I'm seeing too many of these posts today.

[SidDithers]

21. DU rec...nt

Sid

[boston bean]

22. No spine, conservadem Reid speaks again.

Dont worry, that's all he does. All talk no action.

[bhikkhu]

23. I'm inclined to think Reid is technically correct

...but, then, even if someone airs your soiled linens, he wasn't the one that soiled them. I don't mind that we are having the debate, and I think that it will lead to a better regulatory process, which is a good thing.

[bvar22]

24. THIS Harry Reid??!!!

[font size=3]Paulson with Colleagues celebrating the Wall Street Bailout

[font color=white]..........................[/font]Now THIS is Bi Partisanship! [/font]


THIS Harry Reid?.....insisting that SNOWDEN is a "traitor"???!!!




[font size=1]Be still my heart![/font]



You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS.[/font]

[wildbilln864]

36. great post! Wish I could rec it. n/t

[bvar22]

54. You ever wonder WHY Paulson....

was given such a prominent position at the announcement of the passage of the Wall Street Bailout?

A picture says a thousand words,
and this one says a few more. more.
It is easy to see WHO is The Boss and who are the humble servants,
but SNOWDEN is the one who hurt America by telling the truth.

[wildbilln864]

56. yes exactly. n/t

[Le Taz Hot]

26. It looks like the Pineapple Guava is going

to come in early this year. Thinking about making Pineapple Guava Jelly and entering it into the Fair this year. I'm pretty sure no one else will have it.

[99th_Monkey]

33. No. nt

[NoodleyAppendage]

39. He just pulled back the curtain on you Reid. The truth hurts.

Reid and his ilk in the House and Senate leadership are morally bankrupt and far from patriots. If Snowden is a traitor, then they are Judases of representational democracy.

[sgtbenobo]

41. I think HARRY REID is a traitor.....

....and I think he has hurt our country, and I hope someday HE is brought to justice.

He's what happens when Max Baucus and Mitch McConnel have a baby and then pee on it.


Carry on.

[markpkessinger]

43. Oh, well then, if Harry Reid said it . . .

. . . it must be true. I mean, he's such a voice of moral authority . . .

[AZ Progressive]

45. 1. Harry Reid is on the side of Obama, NOT the people

2. Harry Reid is a deliberate weakling of which lack of guts would embarrass any pre-90's Democrat. He is a weakling because he's trying to balance the Democratic Party's interests with the interests of the Corporate Agenda and the Establishment, and being tough would mean that he would have to hurt the interests of the latter. After all, he is a member of the 1% with a net worth of $5 million dollars.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/democrats/harry-reid-net-worth/

[Hell Hath No Fury]

46. The minute Harry Reid -

actually stands up and says the same about war criminals George W. Bush and Dick Cheney I will give a fuck about his opinions on "justice". Until then, continue to fold like the cheap suit you are, Harry.

[Scurrilous]

48. K & R

[Blaspherian]

49. Agreed

Snowden is a traitor and a coward.

[hobbit709]

50. To quote Mark Twain

"Suppose you were an idiot; and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself."

[Broward]

52. A traitor to authoritarians everywhere

[Harmony Blue]

53. Reid is a traitor

and the sad part is he is projecting.

[polichick]

55. The Senate is full of traitors...

Fake wars, bullshit "war on terror," bullshit "war on drugs," special tax codes for corporations, too big to fail, too big for justice, war criminals roaming free among us, etc.

There's a bunch of reasons the American people have no use for Congress.

[ProSense]

58. Maybe these Senators are basing there opinions on the facts

The lawmakers, in a letter sent Monday to Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, noted that the leaks involving Army Private Bradley Manning and National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden come two years after an executive order establishing accountability measures following revelations of previous security leaks. While there are guidelines in place to respond to such security breaches, the two Senators wrote, “What does appear lacking the aftermath of both leak cases is accountability.”

“We are not aware of any individuals or organizations that have been held responsible in the Manning or Snowden leak cases,” the lawmakers wrote. “While preventing unauthorized disclosures is increasingly challenging, the Department of Defense employs a vast security infrastructure under the direction of numerous senior officials for precisely that purpose. Have any of these individuals or organizations been held accountable, and if so, at what level, in what number, and in what manner? Finally, what further steps are being taken to reduce the chance of similar incidents occurring in the future?”

http://www.leahy.senate.gov/press/leahy-graham-send-bipartisan-letter-to-secretary-hagel-seeking-accountability-over-security-leaks

Senate pushes sanctions on nations aiding Snowden
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023338422