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(67,086 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Squinch
(50,911 posts)And such a happy thing. I don't know why, but it is.
spanone
(135,791 posts)csziggy
(34,131 posts)I needed that.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Kablooie
(18,610 posts)I'm playing Fundamental Christian devil's advocate here.
They need a good advocate of the devil to get their point across.
Cool film though.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)It seems inevitable that a certian contingent among the Human species will always have a need, and see a usefulness for, Faith (as opposed to organised Religion, which is a different animal altogether). Since that is the reality the rest of us face, it may be in our best interest to adapt arguments that embrace the BEST qualities of thier Faith, rather than trying to argue them to a position of faithless-NESS, which I'm not convinced can actually be done.
In that vein, any description of a Godhead that doesn't meet the functional definition of "All-Knowing", isn't REALLY a Godhead, and is therefore incomplete, and the worship of such an incompleteness is considered by many Faith Traditions to be a form of outright Blasphemy.
If your God isn't smart enough to understand that Biology is simply an emergent form of CHEMISTRY, what you're worshiping isn't really God, but rather, an external projection of you OWN lack of understanding.
Just an obsevation, and (I've found) a quite useful one.
Peace, because Dexter is on=)
Kablooie
(18,610 posts)And both are going into their last season.
Things like this drive me into piracy.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)we don't call it piracy. we call it "on demand" vewing=).
loudsue
(14,087 posts)Thank you.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)Math would be the same with or without a god. Math can be discovered, but not invented. Even if there were an omnipotent being, he, she, or it could not create a world where 1 + 1 = 3. That's because the truths of mathematics are timeless and universal.
If horses had gods, their gods would look like horses. But horses are sensible animals; they are not afflicted by religion or other superstitions.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)for there to be a God-created Universe where 1+1=3. That the Universe is the way it it IS, can only mean that it's the universe as "God" WANTS it to be, evolution and all. This conclusion allows people of honest Faith to function scientifically from the same playbook as all of the worlds Atheists, Agnostics, and non-Christians, which is a pretty decent place to be if you like Science, Tehchology, and the advancement of civilation and culture that comes along with those things.
You're right about Horses and Gods. That Humans are rather limited in our natural understnading of Nature, is why a lot of our Gods seem to be too. Science expands our understanding of nature, and, if you can allow for the possibility, helps us envision better, more accurate, more Enlightened forms of what a Universal Creator-God can be, even if you yourself (and, for the most part, me) don't believe such Fairy Tales.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)The most you can reasonably assert is that some otherwise intelligent organisms might believe that 1+1=3.
Such organisms would never develop a civilization.
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)I have a child with a stomach virus tonight, and I really needed something beautiful to help clear my mind.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)I hope your child will very soon be healed...
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)He's such a sweetheart, and I know he didn't mean to make such a mess (he's 9, but he's not neurotypical). I'm going to show him the video tomorrow, because I think he will enjoy it.
Again, thank you.
panader0
(25,816 posts)ms liberty
(8,558 posts)I'm glad it was you, I might have missed it had a different member posted it, and that would have been a shame. So beautiful! Thank you, CP!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)You cannot know how much I appreciate your kind remarks...
Rex
(65,616 posts)Beautiful graphics, never seen it drawn so wonderfully as that video. Thanks!
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)love_katz
(2,578 posts)Beautiful film.
I LOVE NATURE!!!!
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)just to say it's pretty??
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)I'm not mathematically inclined either, although right now I wish I were...
It is very pretty!
starroute
(12,977 posts)Really good stuff.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)johnnyreb
(915 posts)Thanks CaliforniaPeggy.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)That's what it means to me... The message is always beautiful, and humbling...
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)2naSalit
(86,323 posts)Thanks, I needed that.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Ask any math geek!
Someone confirm this for me.
I have heard that if you put two sheep on an island, none died from attrition, and all were born fertile, the population growth would be by the ratio of 1.618034.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I only know that in the seventies, I derived that figure using a calculator.
I know of the golden section diagram, the golden proportion, but not the values involved.
So I set our to solve by trial and error the number that would satisfy "x" in the equation below:
1/x = x+1
.6180339 comes close, and is called "phi"/
1/.6180339 = 1.6180339
The sheep, I don't know about that but let me know if you find out!
eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)If you take the ratio of two successive Fibos, you get ...
1/1 = 1
2/1 = 2
3/2 = 1.5
5/3 = 1.6666
8/5 = 1.6
13/8 = 1.625
21/13 = 1.6154
...
These form successive approximations to φ from above and below.
Start from any two numbers in place of 1 and 1 and you get the same result !
To calculate the nth Fibo quickly just calculate φn, divide by √5, and round to the nearest integer (Binet's formula). φn itself rounds to the nearest Lucas number.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)the output is 0.618033988749894848, which is accurate to 20 decimal places. The actual golden ratio and its inverse are irrational numbers; their decimal expansions go on forever without falling into repetitive patterns.
On the other hand, when i input 0.6180339!, the output is 0.895673. To a math geek, "!" means factorial (which is generalized via the Gamma function).
mick063
(2,424 posts)0+1 =1
1+1=2
2+1=3
3+2=5
5+3=8
8+5=13
13+8=21
21+13=34
34+21=55
55+34=89
89 divided by 55= 1.618181818
lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)I'll visit this site often.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)Every time I watch it, I start to cry...
It is that beautiful.
We need truly beautiful things like this.....it's so easy to become brutalized in our daily lives...
defacto7
(13,485 posts)all connected in a natural web that is reality. Just connect the numbers!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Absolutely beautiful, uplifting and enlightening.
Thanks, CP!!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)Because YouTube allows the big screen view, I saw it that way, and WOW. Overwhelmingly beautiful.
I just never get tired of seeing this; I wish it were 10 minutes long.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I wish youtube would allow looping but if they did they'd break their servers. They have wonderful music with many amateur slideshows there. I would have never heard or purchased from iTunes or Amazon without hearing them first at youtube from the community there.
Whenever you want that full screen aspect, put the name of the video into the youtube search bar and most likely, it will already be there.
I spent a lot of time there until they made me switch to a gmail account and it fouled up my regular email and now I can't log in anymore. I miss my friends from around the world there, much more positive than DU most days.
I'm going to check another ISP to save money and see if I'll stay on broadband or not, maybe I can set up a new account, IDK but all the new formats mess with my iMac.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)I'd nominate you for entry. You'd have to say "maths" instead of "math" unless pokerfan beats me for the presidency.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Thanks.
DURec
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)But since it's you CP, the nicest person on DU, I did. You're right, I wasn't sorry. Thank you lady.
malaise
(268,693 posts)Thank you CaliforniaPeggy
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...GROOOOVY!
PEACE!