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Has any evidence emerged detailing how the US was involved in the detention of Greenwald's partner? (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 OP
Obama did it. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #1
Bo Jackson? Rex Aug 2013 #3
No. No. No! The OTHER Bo! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #4
Oh hell...an even bigger legend! Rex Aug 2013 #7
Yep, the knee jerk reaction on DU is typical davidpdx Aug 2013 #9
It has got to be coming, while GG stays behind the reinforced barrier. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #2
Nope. But I'm sure that Beck, Rush, etc will be on it tomorrow... Tx4obama Aug 2013 #5
Doesn't pass the sniff test with me. The Brits are allied with us; snappyturtle Aug 2013 #6
I have no doubt the UK will share whatever information they find out with the US. Rex Aug 2013 #8
And the Brits have a lot at stake with their own surveillance society pnwmom Aug 2013 #12
Thanks...didn't know that! nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #15
Interesting detail: Berlin didn't detain Mr. Miranda leftstreet Aug 2013 #10
Nor did Brazil....I assume he left from there. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #11
Maybe they are especially concerned about what might be in the thousands pnwmom Aug 2013 #13
Ask? Yes. Compliance from Germany? Not so much n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #14
You think Germany isn't a US ally? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #19
AND Snowden included Germany's surveillance in his "revelations" too. He fingered a lot of countries KittyWampus Aug 2013 #20
Not yet. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #16
So any direct lines from this to Obama are baseless speculation at this point Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #17
i don't have any idea. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #18
If there's no evidence then it is all wild speculation. By definition. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #21
Perhaps it is, I'm just not sure to what you are referring. I said "not yet" because, even if there silvershadow Aug 2013 #22
"Evidence"?! those who believe greenwald's every utterance.. don't need no Cha Aug 2013 #23
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Obama did it.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:08 AM
Aug 2013

I think he and Bo personally went over and did this dirty deed.

He's certainly taking a lot of the blame for it.

But then he always does.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Oh hell...an even bigger legend!
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:19 AM
Aug 2013

Think he is giving the POTUS some gee-tar lessons? I mean hell, if you are going to be a rockstar, might as well hang with the big dogs!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. Yep, the knee jerk reaction on DU is typical
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:24 AM
Aug 2013

And if you don't believe them you are drinking cool-aid, a worshiper, a cult member, a paid shill, etc. etc etc.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
5. Nope. But I'm sure that Beck, Rush, etc will be on it tomorrow...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:13 AM
Aug 2013

... working on making up some sort of story

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
6. Doesn't pass the sniff test with me. The Brits are allied with us;
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:13 AM
Aug 2013

the Brazilians, not so much. Now ask, "which country detained
Miranda?"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. I have no doubt the UK will share whatever information they find out with the US.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:24 AM
Aug 2013

I mean I know we are not attached at the hip anymore, but we are still pretty dam close with the UK.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
12. And the Brits have a lot at stake with their own surveillance society
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:29 AM
Aug 2013

which gives them a strong interest in whatever documents Snowden's still keeping under wraps; and they have their own long history of abusing terrorism laws.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
13. Maybe they are especially concerned about what might be in the thousands
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:31 AM
Aug 2013

of documents Snowden/Greenwald are still threatening to release. There's no way to know.

If Obama was behind this, wouldn't you expect him to ask people in both countries to detain Miranda?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
19. You think Germany isn't a US ally?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:47 AM
Aug 2013

You realize the largest military base outside of US soil sits on Germany, right?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
20. AND Snowden included Germany's surveillance in his "revelations" too. He fingered a lot of countries
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:48 AM
Aug 2013
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
22. Perhaps it is, I'm just not sure to what you are referring. I said "not yet" because, even if there
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:51 AM
Aug 2013

is no evidence, it really means nothing to me that there isn't evidence. I will continue to speculate as needed to "connect the dots". So far I'm batting about a thousand.

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