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marmar

(77,056 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:31 AM Aug 2013

Coastal Cities Face $1 Trillion Floods by 2050



Coastal Cities Face $1 Trillion Floods by 2050

Posted on Aug 19, 2013
By Tim Radford, Climate News Network


LONDON—By 2050, flood damage in the world’s coastal cities is expected to reach $1 trillion a year as sea levels rise and global warming triggers new extremes of heat, windstorm and rain.

More than 40% of these prodigious costs could fall upon just four cities – New Orleans, Miami and New York in the US and Guangzhou in China.

Stephane Hallegatte of the World Bank in Washington and colleagues looked at the risks of future flood losses in the 136 largest of the world’s coastal cities.

Any coastal city is always at some risk – by definition it is at sea level, and often on an estuary or floodplain, and very often began as a seaport. .........................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/coastal_cities_face_1_trillion_floods_by_2050_20130819/?ln



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Coastal Cities Face $1 Trillion Floods by 2050 (Original Post) marmar Aug 2013 OP
People w/$$$ to take action don't look beyond the next quarterly report (3month window) Divernan Aug 2013 #1
If you have friends or family living in coastal flood plains/waterfront properties Divernan Aug 2013 #2
What global warming? malaise Aug 2013 #3
du rec. xchrom Aug 2013 #4

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
1. People w/$$$ to take action don't look beyond the next quarterly report (3month window)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:53 AM
Aug 2013

First 2 more paragraphs from the OP link:

But risks increase as the environment changes: some coastal cities are subsiding; sea levels are slowly but surely rising as the oceans warm and the glaciers melt; and for two decades researchers have repeatedly warned that what used to be “extreme” events such as once-in-a-century floods are likely to arrive considerably more often than once a century.

But as disaster professionals have learned again and again, governments, city authorities, investors and even citizens tend not to listen to prophecies of doom: scientists and engineers repeatedly described what could happen to New Orleans if it was hit by a powerful-enough hurricane, and in 2005, as Hurricane Katrina arrived, the levees gave way, with catastrophic results.


And this excellent comment on the OP link from Marian Griffith, discussing Cassandra versus the short term profiteers & politicians only looking ahead to their next election.
First nobody ever listened to Cassandra either, so why should scientists warning of impending disaster expect to be treated any differently?

Second, any warning that is about something more than 3 months in the future is summarily dismissed as it does not affect the next quarterly report (and thus income of the people in a position to actually do anything about it). For politicians this planning horizon tends to count down for about two years until the next reelection campaign is up (and television news is trying really awfully hard to start the next election cycle before the previous is even finished, effectively turning the planning horizon of politicians to zero days: anything that is going to happen in the future is ignored because suggesting to spend money on a problem would negatively impact the next election regardless of how many years in the future that actually is).


Ok, so a third comment applies as well: too many people are numerically illiterate and operate their calculations on a daily bases using the age old 'one two three many' method of numbers. Anything that involves bigger figures than the number of fingers causes their brains to freeze until the scary numbers have gone away again. Almost nobody has an innate understanding of the difference between a thousand, a million, a billion or a trillion and they all understand those are 'really big numbers that have no bearing on me'. When people talk about three hundred thousand they really are thinking about three hundred because that kind of amount they still have some visceral grasp of, but the factor thousand kind of gets glossed over. Same as people tend to 'feel' that a tenth of a million is much less than a hundred thousand. It also is why people are blase about banks being bailed out for a trillion dollars but would be much more upseet to learn that they received a thousand billion dollars.

And finally, to make a mockery of the initial claim of two points, people typically are really really bad with estimating chances and risks. We all tend to confuse the severity of the danger for the chance of it happening (which is part of the reason why people tend to be afraid of flying but not of driving a car). And unless we can apply the consequences to ourselves we tend to not see much of a risk. The politicians and rich who run the country (or a city of state) tend not to live in the potential 'ground zero' of a disaster and as such have a lot more difficulty with understanding the actual risks for -other- people. So what if the low lying areas of New Orleans flood? That is where the poor live anyway. Same with New York. Not much grasp of the risks that the coastal communities are running. Lower Manhattan flooding is inconvenient so something gets done about that, but for the rest? The risk does not 'click' to actual people being economically devastated or killed because it is not 'us' that is at risk.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
2. If you have friends or family living in coastal flood plains/waterfront properties
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:00 AM
Aug 2013

Ask them to consider this. Can they afford to take a total loss on their property? Can they afford an increase in flood plain insurance to $15,000-20,000 a year? If not, urge them to sell their property while there are still climate change deniers out there foolish enough to purchase in a flood plain (and that window of opportunity is shrinking with every news story/report like the OP's link). Then either move somewhere on higher ground, OR if they are determined to remain in their present location, rent or short term lease a property. And keep in mind that landlords may opt out of flood plain insurance, and it may be prohibitively expensive to get renter's insurance, so a second or third floor apartment would be the best bet.

malaise

(268,725 posts)
3. What global warming?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:01 AM
Aug 2013

What climate change. Come on you effin' liberals. It's not true - lies! lies! lies! Just you wait and see.

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