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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:53 AM Aug 2013

Why does Walmart hate the 2nd Amendment?

Suspected Walmart shooter had concealed carry permit, police say

NEENAH — The woman suspected of shooting a co-worker on Wednesday at Walmart had a permit to carry a concealed weapon, Neenah police said today.

The shooting happened shortly before 11:15 a.m. Wednesday in the liquor section of Walmart at 1155 W. Winneconne Ave. The victim, Sharon Goffard, 56, of Neenah, was shot at close range in the abdomen and remains in critical condition at Theda Clark Medical Center.

The suspected shooter, Justine Boyd, 56, of Greenville, had a concealed carry permit at the time of her arrest. Police recovered a handgun at the scene owned by Boyd or her husband. Despite the permit, Walmart policy prohibits employees from carrying weapons while on duty, a statement from Neenah police said.

“Walmart does not prohibit citizens from carrying legally possessed firearms into the Neenah store,” the statement said. “They do, however, have an internal policy that prohibits their employees from going armed while working in the store.”

Read More: http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20130816/APC0101/308160275/


The country's largest employer lets its customers wander in with whatever weapons they care to, yet demand their employees disarm themselves! Where is the NRA on this one??
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Why does Walmart hate the 2nd Amendment? (Original Post) Robb Aug 2013 OP
Local news. Two other gun groups for this posting. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #1
I recognize that, on balance, gun "rights" activists loathe stories where guns cause problems. Robb Aug 2013 #4
There is no Constitutional right to carry guns wherever and whenever hack89 Aug 2013 #6
They are indeed lucky to have you on their side. Robb Aug 2013 #10
You don't take disagreement well, do you? hack89 Aug 2013 #11
No answer? Robb Aug 2013 #12
I can understand your desire to change the subject hack89 Aug 2013 #13
LOL Robb Aug 2013 #14
Robb - no one cares. hack89 Aug 2013 #15
I also share well with others. Robb Aug 2013 #16
Ok hack89 Aug 2013 #17
You've been thoroughly rebutted, but I gotta ask.. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #8
It is my belief that sarisataka Aug 2013 #9
I do not worry Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #5
Wonder if he would like lawful SD cases posted here. Everyday. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #7
Every place I have worked has that policy madville Aug 2013 #2
I doubt the NRA gives a shit hack89 Aug 2013 #3
It is a private business. former9thward Aug 2013 #18

Robb

(39,665 posts)
4. I recognize that, on balance, gun "rights" activists loathe stories where guns cause problems.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:51 AM
Aug 2013

Particularly when the shooter is of the Concealed Carry Permit Holder persuasion, held up as the most responsiblest of the responsible gun enthusiasts. So of course you'd prefer this discussion occur anywhere but here, in full sunlight and in front of DU's membership.

However Walmart employs more than 2 million people. Presumably with the best lawyers in the world at their disposal. And they've decided the risk of their employees being armed is so great they're willing to trample their Constitutional right to bear arms.

And I'm wondering why, exactly, the nation's "oldest civil rights organization" doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. There is no Constitutional right to carry guns wherever and whenever
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:21 AM
Aug 2013

Last edited Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:06 AM - Edit history (1)

the only absolute right at the moment is the right to own a handgun in your home for self defense.

The NRA doesn't have a problem with it because they understand the law of the land - unlike you.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
10. They are indeed lucky to have you on their side.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:03 AM
Aug 2013

That may not be a fair statement; are you still an NRA member? Apologies if you've renounced your membership, I haven't been keeping up. I do recall at one time you said you were a member, and later said you'd never belonged. Last I heard from you, you were back to being a member because it was no big deal.

Anyhow, if you're not an NRA member again, I apologize. If you are, well, fuck the NRA.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
11. You don't take disagreement well, do you?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:08 AM
Aug 2013

not my fault you posted an OP that was a huge logic fail. Better luck next time - it is a little tougher beyond Bansalot.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
12. No answer?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:38 AM
Aug 2013

Not proud of your NRA membership today?

What, Nugent say something else bigoted already?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
13. I can understand your desire to change the subject
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:50 AM
Aug 2013

why is it so important to make this personal? No faith in the strength of your arguments?

You were smacked down by Skinner on this issue - perhaps you should take the hint that no one really cares?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. Robb - no one cares.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:10 PM
Aug 2013

have faith in the strength of your arguments and stop depending on attacking your opponents to "win".

Want to give it a try?

Robb

(39,665 posts)
16. I also share well with others.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:19 PM
Aug 2013

I do not, however, lie about my allegiances. Is that worth trying as well?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
17. Ok
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:22 PM
Aug 2013

so - do you want to discuss your OP? I can't imagine you posted it solely for the purpose of attacking gun owners.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
8. You've been thoroughly rebutted, but I gotta ask..
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:54 AM
Aug 2013

Would you support postings of lawful SD cases involving guns posted here in GD? There are thousands, plenty for everyday.

BTW, the "gungeon" allows all the light in the day, why don't you post there? It's an open group, no? Perhaps you see posting local stuff in GD as a means of furthering the doctrines and TOS of "Castle BansAlot," which I note is a protected group.

Maybe there's room for a (hate to use the expression) win-win.

sarisataka

(18,559 posts)
9. It is my belief that
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:58 AM
Aug 2013

GD gun thread simply annoy/bore 99% of the DU membership so I will not waste their time here.

I will extend an invitation for your comment on this thread- http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172130439

And I'm wondering why, exactly, the nation's "oldest civil rights organization" doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
Along the lines of recognizing property owners have the right to restrict activities of their guests, employers may do the same with their employees.
Now to just remind the NRA that until very recently they also supported universal background checks...
Kudos to Illinois for figuring out a way to extend checks to private sales http://www.democraticunderground.com/12624225
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
5. I do not worry
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:10 AM
Aug 2013

the person you responded to is one of the main ones to try and stir crap up in forums other than Bansalot. Then over there in the safe zone they make fun because people do not respond. Ban members so they can not respond very liberal of them. I assume it is liability issues by the company pushed by lawyers. Non issue is you ask me. They allow CC and you would think it would be the old west type shootouts every day if you listen to "some" people.

madville

(7,408 posts)
2. Every place I have worked has that policy
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:22 AM
Aug 2013

Civilian and government jobs, my understanding is the policy is in place to protect the employer from potential lawsuits/liability.

My previous employer had a similar policy, no weapons in company vehicles. Everyone had one though since we traveled to remote/dangerous areas sometimes.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
3. I doubt the NRA gives a shit
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:31 AM
Aug 2013

Last edited Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:57 AM - Edit history (1)

since this is policy has been universally adopted by US companies for liability reasons, if they were unhappy about it you would have been able to find an actual NRA statement opposing it.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
18. It is a private business.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:32 PM
Aug 2013

They can have any policy they want. If you don't like it, don't shop there or work there.

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