Regarding the person Laura Poitras we hear mention of in regards Glenn Greenwald

[Babel_17]

I was somewhat aware of Ms. Poitras and her connection to Mr. Greenwald but just now I was presented with two links that provide some very relevant information about what she's been up against.

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/08/u_s_filmmaker_repeatedly_detained_at_border/

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?pagewanted=all

Since the 2006 release of "My Country, My Country," Poitras has left and re-entered the U.S. roughly 40 times. Virtually every time during that six-year-period that she has returned to the U.S., her plane has been met by DHS agents who stand at the airplane door or tarmac and inspect the passports of every de-planing passenger until they find her (on the handful of occasions where they did not meet her at the plane, agents were called when she arrived at immigration). Each time, they detain her, and then interrogate her at length about where she went and with whom she met or spoke. They have exhibited a particular interest in finding out for whom she works.

She has had her laptop, camera and cellphone seized, and not returned for weeks, with the contents presumably copied. On several occasions, her reporter's notebooks were seized and their contents copied, even as she objected that doing so would invade her journalist-source relationship. Her credit cards and receipts have been copied on numerous occasions. In many instances, DHS agents also detain and interrogate her in the foreign airport before her return, on one trip telling her that she would be barred from boarding her flight back home, only to let her board at the last minute. When she arrived at JFK Airport on Thanksgiving weekend of 2010, she was told by one DHS agent -- after she asserted her privileges as a journalist to refuse to answer questions about the individuals with whom she met on her trip -- that he "finds it very suspicious that you're not willing to help your country by answering our questions." They sometimes keep her detained for three to four hours (all while telling her that she will be released more quickly if she answers all their questions and consents to full searches).

[xchrom]

1. du rec.

[Catherina]

2. Jacob Appelbaum gets the same treatment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum

It's reserved for *enemies of the state*.

Rec'd

[snooper2]

5. Now he is one INTERESTING dude!

Worked for porn company, hacker, greenpeace, represents some art group, athiest...


Bet he would be fun to hang out with for a night and have some drinks! But I doubt he is coming back to US after reading wiki page-

[progressoid]

3. Freedumb ain't free!!1!

[Autumn]

4. Fascinating. That woman is amazing.

Thank you for posting this. Bookmarked

[Babel_17]

6. Thankfully the New York Times ran her story

Her story is now on the record, it's a part of our history.

[Autumn]

7. Yes it is. I had no idea. I've heard her name in this story but had

no clue of her history. But now I'm willing to bet, there was nothing incriminating in what she was sending to Glenn. She is on top of everything and extremely cautious. With good reason.

[Babel_17]

8. I found a youtube video where she speaks of the treatment she received

I feel like I'm listening someone native to another country speaking about their government's heavy handedness.

[Autumn]

9. I can't come up with words to describe how I feel about this.

[ljm2002]

10. This interview should be required viewing...

...by anyone who is following this case.

(Did I mention, I heart Amy Goodman? She's the best!)

[Babel_17]

12. I think I'll be posting it elsewhere, as appropriate.

[Catherina]

18. Thank you for posting that. Awful n/t

[kentuck]

23. Brave woman.

Thanks!

[Babel_17]

11. New York Times article says that she's communicating with Greenwald

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/world/europe/britain-detains-partner-of-reporter-tied-to-leaks.html?_r=0

More to come, I'm confident.

[Egalitarian Thug]

13. The window is quickly closing. n/t

[JDPriestly]

14. The purpose of the NSA program and the harassment of Laura Poitras is to prevent the exercise of

free speech and the existence of a free press.

I have tried to explain that the NSA program (and this part of the Homeland Security's programs) chills speech.

Laura Poitras' detention at airports is a vivid and clear example of how security laws are being used to chill speech. Remember. This could happen to you. It could happen to anyone who likes to discuss or write about politics. This could happen to anyone in a union or anyone who tries to form a union. This could happen to anyone who writes their member of Congress or the President and criticizes some pet law or legislation of the person receiving the letter or e-mail

This is the precise conduct that our Bill of Rights prohibits.

And, sorry, guys, it started long ago. But it is getting worse.

This has to stop.

If you don't believe my claims about how this has been a long time coming, please watch this video that was posted by SnappyTurtle some days ago on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017139372

Everyone needs to watch that video. It is long but excellent. It explains how the NSA was involved in the installation of the Shaw in Iran (which set off our current problems with Iran), the Iran-Contra scandal and a lot of other undemocratic conduct that has harmed our foreign policy and endangered our constitutional government.

A lot of people are getting fed up with this. On top of the mismanagement of the economy during the Clinton and Bush years, the increasing repression is unacceptable.

The apologists for the NSA are a sorry bunch. I doubt that they know what they are defending.

[Babel_17]

17. I just started watching

:sniff: It gave me nostalgia for when Democratic partisans were loud and proud when talking to the press on issues like this.

[Douglas Carpenter]

15. a very important background story

[sabrina 1]

16. But that was back in the old Bush days, right? Remember how they used to put people like

the Green Party leader and Quakers on their 'secret no fly' lists.

But we elected Democrats to put an end to all this Stasi nonsense, (yes, we did call it that back then), so surely she is now being treated with the same respect any US citizen who has not committed a crime (unless Journalism has become a crime, which it was under Bush) the way any journalist should expect to be treated???

[Babel_17]

48. Kudos to those journalists who realize what's at stake

The writing on the wall seems clear as many more stories in the future will have international implications and thus be seen as relating to National Security.

[sabrina 1]

51. Absolutely. They are definitely very courageous people.

[blackspade]

19. Pretty standard for authoritarian regimes.

USA! USA! (just in case someone missed it)

[East Coast Pirate]

21. It IS athoritarian.

[blackspade]

25. That's what I said!

[99th_Monkey]

20. The War on Terror is over. Terrorists already won. Let's stop pretending.

and focus on how they did that, and fix it. i.e. roll back all this draconian post-911
panic-driven paranoid invasive unconstitutional over-reach, and dismantle the
USurveillance & USecurity UState before it's too late, if it isn't already.

[Babel_17]

22. Our party, our nation, will need spokespeople with the courage of their convictions

Our party, our nation, will need spokespeople with the courage of their convictions to move the nation to demanding any kind of a roll-back. Republicans have taken discourse down to its lowest level. They even lack consistency as one day they sound like anarchistic libertarians, the next day they sound like absolute authoritarians.

The political arena is going to need a lot of outside help to catalyze change.

[99th_Monkey]

33. I think many Republicans can be brought along actually

esp if Dems take the high ground and lead the way, like Wyden
is doing.

[Babel_17]

47. I hope you're right

I hope everybody sees the bigger picture.

[woo me with science]

26. I would say the corporate authoritarians won. nt

[99th_Monkey]

29. Well, there is that unpleasant fact as well

IMO that's who pays many of the "terrorists" to be terrorists.
Terrorists are mercenary pawns.

so as to scare us into wanting a surveillance & security state,
which has pretty much already happened, while we weren't looking,
we are now finding out just how much, thanks to Manning & Snowden.

[avaistheone1]

37. Yes, the War on Terror is over. Now it is War on the People.

[99th_Monkey]

41. Yep. Terry Gilliam had it about right

when he released "Brazil" movie, way back in 1985.

[avaistheone1]

44. Damn this is getting ridiculously real.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry. But that film looks brilliant...quite an omen.

[GoneOffShore]

24. And our usual band of suspects is silent on this.

One wonders why?

Oh that's right, it wouldn't be "sensible" or "prudent".

[Cryptoad]

27. Is Greenwlad

still thumping his chest?

[Autumn]

31. No, so far just you

[Cryptoad]

35. Paul would be Proud,,,,,,,,,

[Autumn]

36. So would OFA

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/219968731.html

And that's a good thing for OFA to support his stance on immigration, you do know that OFA is descended from President Barack Obama's re-election campaign. OFA is led by Jon Carson, who worked at the Obama White House.
if you didn't you know now.

[Cryptoad]

38. Which stance is that,,,

it changes ever other day

[Autumn]

39. So far OFA has been consistant, they helped us elect Obama. You will have to read to

find out anything else because I'm done with the conversation. Have a nice evening.

[Cryptoad]

43. Its not OFA that I talking about changing its positon

every other day..... as much Master Paul in jumping around, your statement is like a stopped clock being right once twice a day.

Im done too.... nothing to learn here..

bye

[Babel_17]

46. I don't understand your question (nt)

[woo me with science]

28. This is the behavior of a totalitarian state.

This is the behavior of a totalitarian state.

So is the creepy, ubiquitous propaganda machine attempting to normalize it.

[neverforget]

30. I had no idea it was this bad.

This is what happens though when people in power have their use of power questioned.

[MotherPetrie]

32. The Bush-Cheney administration couldn't have done it better.

[Babel_17]

49. Well, they started it though it's continuance is on our current security apparatus

Back in 2006 they really didn't like her reporting about the elections in Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Country,_My_Country

After completing the film, Poitras claims "Since completing My Country, My Country, I've been placed on the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) watch list" and to have been notified by airport security "that my 'threat rating' was the highest the Department of Homeland Security assigns"

[chervilant]

34. K&R

And bookmarked for viewing all linked videos.

(Amazed that the die-hard sycophants have gotten vewy, vewy quiet...must be hunting wabbits.)

[Oilwellian]

42. Amazing info

Thank you for posting.

[AZ Progressive]

45. Imagine when things like this are more common

[Babel_17]

50. "heightened circumstances"

Martin Q. Blank: What about you? Joined the force, huh?

Terry Rostand: Oh no, I'm not a peace officer. Yeah, this badge isn't a meaningful symbol. We don't enforce the law, we just execute company policy for homeowners.

Martin Q. Blank: Oh, right... you mind talking a little shop?

Terry Rostand: Sure.

Martin Q. Blank: When are you authorized to use deadly force?

Terry Rostand: Oh well, you know, taxes provide your basic services, you know, police and whatnot, but our customers, they need a little bit more than that, so we catch you on the property, we do what we have to do.

Martin Q. Blank: So, if I just look suspicious on your customers' property - under those, you know, "heightened circumstances" - you have the authority to shoot me?

Terry Rostand: Correct.

Martin Q. Blank: Wow, all right. How'd you get the gig?

Terry Rostand: Oh, well, they were hiring. And it was only a two-week course.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119229/quotes

[idwiyo]

52. K&R

[dipsydoodle]

53. I don't understand why she didn't just mail the drives to the UK.

Home address of one of the Guardian's staff would've been fine. Mail between Germany and the UK is almost as fast as our own mail here - Fedex whatever even faster.

[Babel_17]

54. I think it was intended for Greenwald who lives in Brazil

Miranda was searched during a stopover, he wasn't in Britain so as to visit the Guardian.

So, you could say he was a Brazilian citizen who was traveling from Germany to Brazil who was interrogated and had his belongings taken away from him because his flight passed through Britain.

And this happened due to the powers granted by an anti-terrorism law.

In August 2013, while travelling home from a visit to Germany, carrying work in progress relating to classified U.S. government documents to Greenwald in Brazil,[62] Miranda, 28, was detained by the Metropolitan Police Service at London's Heathrow Airport under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000.[63][64] Miranda was detained for nine hours, the maximum time permissible under Schedule 7.[64] Miranda was returning from Berlin, where he had been assisting Laura Poitras, Greenwald's collaborator on the Snowden files.[64] His flights were paid for by The Guardian, for whom Miranda does not work, although he sometimes assists Greenwald on stories. Greenwald described his partner's detention as "clearly intended to send a message of intimidation to those of us who have been reporting on the NSA and GCHQ".[64]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald#Personal_life

Edit: spelling

[dipsydoodle]

55. I hadn't picked up it was just a stopover.

Thanks.

[Little Star]

56. Rachel Maddow did a segment about Poitras last night. It was informative......

[Babel_17]

57. Huh, thanks for that! The bigger picture is coming into focus

I'll watch the video in a minute but I'm sure Maddow and her team did their homework.