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Duer 157099

(17,742 posts) Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:08 PM Aug 2013

Isn't there some sort of irony about freaking out about info being released

by the very machine that sweeps up all the info?

(That is to say: the machine freaking out about the info being let out is the very machine that is gathering the info up all into a nice little bundle that is easy to let out)

Something about glass houses I think. Or black pots and kettles. Or something.

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Isn't there some sort of irony about freaking out about info being released (Original Post) Duer 157099 Aug 2013 OP

I like how Al Qaeda is smart enough to read the Manning/Wikileaks docs off the web BUT.... dballance Aug 2013 #1

Yes. "If they aren't doing anything wrong, why are they so worried?" NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #2

Not only that but Duer 157099 Aug 2013 #3

dballance

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1. I like how Al Qaeda is smart enough to read the Manning/Wikileaks docs off the web BUT....

Reply to Duer 157099 (Original post)

Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:37 PM

Aug 2013

Apparently they're too stupid to do a google search and find the myriad of ways that the US can snoop on them. So Snowden is a terrible traitor because he divulged something any idiot with a computer and internet capability could find broad information about and then make the not-too-large leaps about how to avoid US surveillance.

It's pretty common knowledge that you shouldn't take a cell phone anywhere you don't want to be tracked. The practice of screening cars, rooms, buildings for bugs has been around for a while. The fact the NSA has been routing all the traffic they can get through their servers has been known since the Bush/Cheney post-911 dystopia began.

Frankly, I don't understand why the Snowden thing has been such a revelation to everyone. Certainly not to any foreign government. If all foreign governments weren't already operating under the assumption the US is monitoring them any way possible then they are downright stupid. That would be willful ignorance.

NYC_SKP

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2. Yes. "If they aren't doing anything wrong, why are they so worried?"

Reply to Duer 157099 (Original post)

Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:39 PM

Aug 2013

I was considering an OP on that very irony.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)

3. Not only that but

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:12 PM

Aug 2013

considering that the original purpose of the Internet was to decentralize/redundantize govt/info in the event of a catastrophe, it would be like putting a kill-switch on the Internet and then worrying about someone pushing the button.

I mean, if you don't want it used, don't build it, is all I'm saying.

If you build a super-vacuum to suck up all the data in the world, don't be surprised when somebody punches a hole in it and all that data flies out somewhere.

The solution? Don't suck it all up.

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