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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:26 PM Aug 2013

Guardian says Britain forced it to destroy Snowden material.


Reuters) - The Guardian, a major outlet for revelations based on leaks from former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden, says the British government threatened legal action against the newspaper unless it either destroyed the classified documents or handed them back to British authorities.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/08/20/us-usa-security-snowden-guardian-idINBRE97I10E20130820

The national security state is turning the vise slowly on the enemies of the state.

The Guardian basically told them to fuck off. They will continue to publish using resources outside the UK.

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snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
5. The information is not gone. Greenwald spends a great deal
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:57 PM
Aug 2013

of his time going over documents to redact information that should
not be publicized. I think in time, we will see a lot more...He's really
damned if folks think he's released too much and others, like you,
think we need to see everything. Just sayin'

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
2. Guardian reports destruction of computer hard drive by gov't..
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:46 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/19/david-miranda-schedule7-danger-reporters

Article: DAVID MIRANDA, SCHEDULE 7 AND THE DANGER THAT ALL REPORTERS NOW FACE

snip...

During one of these meetings I asked directly whether the government would move to close down the Guardian's reporting through a legal route – by going to court to force the surrender of the material on which we were working. The official confirmed that, in the absence of handover or destruction, this was indeed the government's intention. Prior restraint, near impossible in the US, was now explicitly and imminently on the table in the UK. But my experience over WikiLeaks – the thumb drive and the first amendment – had already prepared me for this moment. I explained to the man from Whitehall about the nature of international collaborations and the way in which, these days, media organisations could take advantage of the most permissive legal environments. Bluntly, we did not have to do our reporting from London. Already most of the NSA stories were being reported and edited out of New York. And had it occurred to him that Greenwald lived in Brazil?

The man was unmoved. And so one of the more bizarre moments in the Guardian's long history occurred – with two GCHQ security experts overseeing the destruction of hard drives in the Guardian's basement just to make sure there was nothing in the mangled bits of metal which could possibly be of any interest to passing Chinese agents. "We can call off the black helicopters," joked one as we swept up the remains of a MacBook Pro.

Whitehall was satisfied, but it felt like a peculiarly pointless piece of symbolism that understood nothing about the digital age. We will continue to do patient, painstaking reporting on the Snowden documents, we just won't do it in London. The seizure of Miranda's laptop, phones, hard drives and camera will similarly have no effect on Greenwald's work.


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You'll need to read the entire article to understand the thumb drive and first amendment comment.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. so the Guardian destroyed its computers in the presence of government agents.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:49 PM
Aug 2013

Wow.

But the documents exist in multiple places, apparently.

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