Guardian is taking legal action against Home Office over detention of David Miranda & confiscation o

[dipsydoodle]

Guardian is taking legal action against Home Office over detention of David Miranda & confiscation of his laptop & phone.

See 12.16pm BST here : http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2013/aug/20/david-miranda-detention-latest-developments

BREAKING: @guardian begins legal action against UK police to stop them examining material seized from David Miranda http://t.co/sBjAdcF4V5 http://inagist.com/all/369780919961284609/?utm_source=inagist&utm_medium=rss

[morningfog]

1. Good.

[cantbeserious]

2. Time To Put An End To This Nonsense

eom

[Recursion]

3. So Miranda was working for them?

Still, anything that challenges that law is a good thing.

[backscatter712]

4. He's the partner of one of their reporters.

I think the Guardian or any independent media organization would take interest when the partners or spouses of their journalists were threatened.

[Cryptoad]

11. They were

not concerned with GG having and distributing Stolen documents,,,,,,,,,,

[SidDithers]

7. Yup. The Guardian paid for the trip...nt

Sid

[HooptieWagon]

9. Paid for trip, but not an employer.

Miranda assists Greenwald, but he is not an employee of Guardian, per their statement.

[Historic NY]

15. But he is acting as an agent thereof........

of any employee, individual or corporation. They acknowledged that by paying forthe trip.

[HooptieWagon]

16. No. Miranda assists Greenwald.

It is not unusual for a spouse to assist the other. Especially in writing, music etc. And if Greenwald is working on an article for a paper, it is not unusual for that paper to cover the travel expenses of his volunteer assistant spouse. That does not mean the assistant spouse is either an employee or agent of the paper.

[msanthrope]

5. Jolly good show! nt

[sweetloukillbot]

6. Miranda is taking legal action - not the Guardian see 12:33 same article

But they are supporting his action

[dipsydoodle]

8. Yes - thanks for the update.

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[Cryptoad]

10. One would think

that they would be just as eager to petition the Court in the US to stop this illegal activity that they claim they have proof of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Funny how that works, heh?

[intaglio]

12. No it is not

David Miranda is taking the action and for that I applaud him though I suspect it will be long and involved. I suspect that the materials will be returned eventually but that what data there is will have been copied and perhaps decrypted*.

from your own link.
Rusbridger confirmed that David Miranda is taking legal action over his detention at Heathrow. In particular, Miranda wants the material that was taken from him returned. (Earlier suggestions that it was the Guardian itself taking legal action were wrong, although the Guardian is backing what Miranda is doing. The official line from Guardian HQ says: "David Miranda has filed a legal claim with regard to his detention at Heathrow Airport on Sunday 18 August under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. The Guardian is supportive of that claim." Rusbridger said it was not clear that Miranda was committing any offence taking the material through Heathrow.

As to Rusbridger's claims in respect of the OFA he is being very disingenuous. All that would be required for arrest would be a statement that Miranda is a known associate of a man who claims to have information deleterious to the interests of Her Majesties Government and that it is believed that he may be carrying such information with the intention of making that information available to enemies of that Government.

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* a note on encrypted files. If you want the best security then take a fresh thumb drive and save previously encrypted files to that. Under no circumstances use use a drive on which a plain text version of your encrypted data has previously been stored. Even if that data has been overwritten there may be sufficient "ghost" data to allow the complete encrypted file to be decoded and read given sufficient time. Having sufficient of the unencrypted text will allow a brute force assault on your data to be successful.

[George II]

13. "Miranda wants the material that was taken from him returned."

Including the material that he shouldn't have had in the first place?

[malaise]

14. The Guardian is our last breath of fresh air

Give thanks for it's original owners' prescience.
Meanwhile 'the circumlocution office' will continue to lie and spin away.

[Catherina]

17. So no reason for detention, no pens, no interpreter, no lawyer for 8 hrs

"At 4.05pm, Mr Kendall was finally granted access to our client, just one hour before the nine-hour statutory maximum detention power expired."

"Mr Kendall asked whether our client was being detained as a result of a suspected offence in the UK or on behalf of another state, country or government organisation abroad. He was told the police could not say and was not provided with any explanation for his detention.

"They refused to confirm what our client had been asked before his representative arrived, nor would they provide him with a record of what was discussed. Our client asked for a pen to write down the questions and this too had been refused," the letter reveals.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/20/david-miranda-reason-detention-lawyers

Here's a copy of the legal letter to the Home Office. The ask for guarantees that none of the information on his electronic equipment was inspected, copied, disclosed, transferred, or interfered with in any way and that if it was, they demand to know to whom and demand guarantees that nothing will be done with it. Ha! The assholes in charge don't care about the rule of law anymore. They're so panicked that they're doing whatever it takes, whatever they want right now and think a few pretty speeches will calm everyone down later. Don't count on it. Here's the letter: http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/aug/20/david-miranda-letter-home-office

[alsame]

18. Question about the UK....

is there an equivalent to the US Dept of Homeland Security? If so, it is as expansive as ours?

I'm just trying to figure out the chain of command for an incident like this.

[dipsydoodle]

19. No there is no equivalent here.

Home security.

[alsame]

20. That's what happens when

I try to type too fast

[dipsydoodle]

21. We did have a Ministry of Home Security.

That was closed in 1945.

I didn't pick you up on home / homeland in fact I thought I'd typed homeland.

[alsame]

22. Lol. Let's just say

'domestic'

[dipsydoodle]

23. We got that.

They're called the police believe it or not..

[idwiyo]

24. K&R Good.