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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWashinton Post: Ted Cruz and Obama "apples to oranges" on birth certificate
I'll post some of his imho nonsensical argument and then my email response to him:
(by the way, even Orly Taitz says the situation is the same with Cruz)
The reason? Because about the only thing these two situations have in common is that they involve a birth certificate and a presidential candidate.
Questions about Cruzs eligibility have everything to do with interpretation of the law; the questions about Obamas eligibility had everything to do with a dispute over the underlying facts more specifically, conspiracy theories about whether the president was actually born in the United States, as he claimed, and whether he somehow forged a birth certificate that said he was born in Hawaii.
In Cruzs case, nobody is disputing the underlying facts of the case that Cruz was born in Canada to a Cuban father and a mother who was a United States citizen. As we wrote back in March, that makes him a U.S. citizen himself, but its not 100 percent clear that that is the same thing as a natural born citizen the requirement for becoming president.
Most scholars think its the same thing, and the Congressional Research Service said in 2011 that someone like Cruz most likely qualifies to run for president. But to this point, there is no final word from the courts, because while foreign-born candidates have run including George Romney and John McCain none of them has actually won and had his eligibility challenged.
My email to him:
Your reasoning is so oddly false that I wonder what's up.
The Birthers are accusing Obama of having the EXACT same status as we know for a fact that Ted Cruz has. Apples and apples.
If they are 100% right in their conspiracy theories, if Obama is indeed lying, then were are we? Obama has EXACTLY the same status as Cruz: born abroad to a mother who is a U.S. citizen.
The only way someone could see it as apples and oranges is if they saw Canada and Kenya as inherently different fruit.
Regards,
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Great Britain this discussion would've probably never taken place to begin with.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)for that matter.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)history in this country.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)in order to address this writer's argument (which I see now is essentially the argument made by the birther Steve Stockman), i am conceding that the conspiracy theories are true. Hypothetically.
kentuck
(111,094 posts)Other than that small detail, there are some similarities. BOTH WERE BORN TO AMERICAN MOTHERS. Both had foreign fathers. Now, which hypocrite wants to argue otherwise?
Mass
(27,315 posts)I guess that if somebody said that humans breath CO2 and reject O2, Blake would feel compelled to write there is a dispute on the human breathing process?
In addition, you are right, even if we accept the conspiracy theories, it would place Obama in the same situation as Cruz.