Anything the Gov't doesn't want you to see is classified.

[Jackpine Radical]

Even FOIA documents come so heavily redacted that they're pretty much useless.

If reporters can't publish information from "stolen" documents, it follows that they pretty much can't print anything that wasn't approved for release by the gov't.

Journalism is thus reduced to a Public Relations venture of the sort that ol' Ed Bernays would approve of.

Democracy can't conceivably function effectively without an informed public. Indeed, that's one of the major reasons it's not functioning now.

So let's hang Greenwald. Let's hang Manning. Let's hang not just Ellsberg but the editors who published the Pentagon Papers.

Only then can the State be safe against the threat of mad information-bombers.

[leftyohiolib]

1. reminds me of the picture i saw of all the past presidents w/those who ran, all together laughing

like theyre all part of the same club just laughing away at something or someone

[Octafish]

2. Especially the ''Who PROFITS'' parts.

Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'

By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph

A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.

Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.

SNIP...

Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html

[ljm2002]

3. This bears repeating:

"Democracy can't conceivably function effectively without an informed public. Indeed, that's one of the major reasons it's not functioning now."

Well said!

[uponit7771]

4. So it's best to let it all hang out vs voting for people who shade towards strict oversight?!

[Jackpine Radical]

5. The problem is, beyond a few outspoken people like Wyden & Udall,

who the hell are those "people who shade towards strict oversight?"

[uponit7771]

7. ...dnc.gov? tia keyword "shade" meaning they're going to be different degress of it

...but no one or few are going to shade towards LESS oversight

[Jackpine Radical]

8. Well, you can get a pretty good sunburn

sitting in the shade of the DNC.

[uponit7771]

9. But we can work with them to get more sunblock...can't do that with Paulians or the right

[Jackpine Radical]

10. Believe me, I have no truck with that crowd.

I think the whole issue is much bigger than this administration or the previous one, or maybe any administration going back to Lincoln. I think the elected portion of the Government is far less powerful than we imagine it to be.

[MisterP]

6. Edgar Chamorro testified to the World Court that a lot of Honduran journalists were CIA mouthpieces

in "every major Honduran newspaper and television station"
by the late 80s, the far right there had denounced RONALD REAGAN as a Muscovite plant: what was important to the CIA and those aligned to it, then, was not to tar Reagan per se but to make "Commie" a universal word of utter condemnation