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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe North Colorado people haven't actually read the Constitution
Article 4, Section 3: New States
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
So the teabaggers in Coloralabama can rant and rave about wanting to form a new state all day long, and write all the resolutions and initiatives they want...but if Denver or Washington says they stay part of Colorado, they stay part of Colorado.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Then there's the Texas contingent (my neck of the miry woods) who hold to the urban myth that Texas has in its constitution, that it may remove itself from the Union with merely a pen-stroke.
Clearly grasping at straws after finding out, they then decided that "Texas can, according to the constitution, divide into five smaller states" which is, as noted in your OP, also superfluous doe to Art IV, Sec 3.
These are the idiots who think even that more division is required to solve our collective problems because working together is just too darn difficult.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Staph
(6,251 posts)The short version of the creation of West Virginia:
After Virginia seceded from the Union, the western portion of the state (which had voted in favor of staying in the Union) formed a provisional government of the state of Virginia. Then that government applied to the federal government to allow the trans-Allegheny counties to form a new state. Lincoln wasn't happy about -- he viewed it as specious but gave the opinion that the legal government of Virginia was petitioning to create this new state from within its own borders. We became a state on June 20, 1863 (happy sesquicentennial!).
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)If the OP is implying it is not permitted then the OP would be wrong, by proof of the OP's citation as well as the decidedly unconstitutional separation of WV. The would-be North Colorado secessionists can also make themselves such a nuisance that Colorado proper prefers to do away with them. Meanwhile Colorado proper elements might even believe it to be in their own benefit as it would solidify their own political homogeny, i.e. no more nettlesome recalls such as being endured by Morse over the recent gun control law kerfuffle.
My *only* point is -- it isn't as outside the realm of possibility as the OP may suggest.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)I am remembering that West Virginia seceded from the rest of the state after Virginia had seceded from the union.
The OP's citation says the consent of the "state legislatures involved" (Colorado's, in this case) and the federal Congress are required for secession. Yes, technically they COULD secede...if the Colorado legislature and the Congress both agreed to let them do it.
Remembering that we have...
* a statehouse in Colorado that is dependent on the tax monies the northern counties provide...
* a national House of Representatives that can't do anything except name post offices and advance Obamacare-repeal bills...
* and a Democratic majority in the Senate who really doesn't want two more teabagger senators in office...
the odds of them getting the permission they constitutionally need to secede is somewhere between "none" and "less than that."
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Energy they waste on this is energy unavailable to screw up something else.
locks
(2,012 posts)We have so much voter fraud in Colorado that Gessler will do an investigation to make sure none of the "Northern Coloradans" will need an ID and that they get to vote a number of times. lol