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"Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson has said the A&E hit downplays his family's religious faith -- but the intensity of his beliefs comes through in a videotaped speech condemning abortion.
Robertson says in the speech that he is in Pennsylvania, though it is unclear when it was shot. It was posted by the conservative site CNS News, and linked on the Drudge Report, giving Robertson a huge forum. His show is the highest-rated reality series on cable, and his remarks put him in the middle of one of the country's most contentious issues.
In the speech, he talks about presidents he says relied on the Bible, then turns to abortion.
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/duck-dynasty-star-targets-abortion-god-given-live-172005542.html
Yeah, Dumbo Bush relied on the Bible and look how good that turned out.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Paladin
(28,202 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Watch who you paint with that broad brush of yours.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)And...that there are little ways THESE DAYS for them to get out of their Box...because of the Education Dumb Down and Push Back from the Harvards /Ivy League Other Colleges and HIGH Financed US Universities and Colleges.
Only the ELITE get into those HIGH TIER... and those who can't afford to go to anything are out there trying to protect themselves and they are PREY to RW Think Tanks, Koch Brothers and ALEC!
We have some serious problems here in our "America the Beautiful." We are being Raped and Abused as we all fight for our "Freedom" we thought and were told that we had in contrast to the Bogeyman "Totalitarian States" like China/Russia and Dictator States and yet we STILL SAY...we are BETTER THAN THEM!
leftstreet
(36,078 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%2BE_Networks
It doesn't matter how many viewers these creepy shows get. It's not like the network will go broke or something
olddots
(10,237 posts)the goobers on that show probably studied drama ate Yale
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Or anything else he kills 20 times a day.
Peregrine Took
(7,408 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)First they rope in all the soft minded into their happy little redneck show, then their agenda comes out. Just a bunch of good ol boys my ass.
Walmart has a whole section of garbage with the bearded guys on shirts, truck floor mats, and anything else.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)exactly what you did. I was wondering when they'd show their "true agenda."
Look...parts of it are funny if one likes clueless people doing some kind of "doofus" comedy.
The other part of it is that it represents Southerners in a typical steriotypical way (sort of like the "Step and Fetchit's" did to African-Americans in the old Hollywood movies.
It's like a Southern Beverly Hillbillies but without the real character that show had.
So now they bring their "true agenda" to the front. Sad thing, though is this is also how the South has been dumbed down even more and this show will attract many who think "ignorant Jr. High type behavior is attractive and its audience goes beyond Southerners but to all places in the USA who love their guns...like their women to clean up after them while looking strong...like good Mama's taking care of their errant little boys..and we have enough Corporate Dumb Down like the Reality Shows passing for what is the "True America" of the Middle and Poor working classes.
I've not said this well...but, I had such a reaction to the "subtle points" of that Duck Guys Show that between being harassed by RW Family members and reading this OP...that I've popped off.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)It's Honey Boo Boo with a beard.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 20, 2013, 07:59 PM - Edit history (1)
Sorry..this is a Post from Amazon Reviewer and not OP Koko...I had distraction at home and didn't do proper attribution. Sorry about that.
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"Amazon Commenter" whose view is very interesting:
As a progressive who grew up in exactly the kind of town the author describes, I found "Deer Hunting With Jesus" to be a chilling and dead on accurate account of modern day America. Unless you've had the experience of seeing the house you grew up in only 20 years ago boarded up and sold at a HUD auction, or turned into a crack house as my best friend from high school's house recently was (we were solidly middle class by small town standards), you really can't appreciate what the author is trying to describe.
That said, this is no biased political rant, as the author's staunch defense of gun ownership demonstrates. It is instead a desperate warning to all Americans just how perilously close we are to seeing our way of life destroyed by our own misguided collective actions. The author believes that progressives and the white working class (rednecks as he calls them) ought to be able to find political common ground based upon economic interest. He's also realistic enough to realize that it is unlikely to happen in time to rescue America from the precipice we seemed so determined to fling ourselves over.
Be forewarned, it is depressing as hell and in no way conforms to the Republican OR Democratic narratives of what America needs to do to preserve our way of life. It is the kind of truth-telling book that could only be written by someone who has seen enough of living on both sides of the red-blue divide to truly understand what ails this country.
In all, a perfect antidote to what the author calls the "American Hologram" of our mass media culture.------------------
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NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I hate e books but they remind me which ones to pick up later. Up next on my shelf is Ecology of a Cracker Childhood by Janisse Ray. I'll read the sample of hunting as well.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)I completely agree with you. I think they're full of shit and, quite honestly, if faced with the same hard decision...would do it in a heartbeat.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Ya just those little embryos and zygotes count...we know, has nothing to do with reality. Thanks Phil. You are stupid stupid stupid, but happy happy happy.
kimbutgar
(20,872 posts)I just don't get their appeal and couldn't understand what they were saying. After 5 minutes I was bored. Kind of reminds me of the NASCAR car races of cars going round and round on the track. I am only interested in the last lap. Drag racing is more interesting. I would bet those wo love duck dynasty also are fans of NASCAR. Honey boo boo Is more interesting because you see how the family loves each other. Duck dynasty boring an stupid. Sorry imho.
Paladin
(28,202 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)in Louisiana, where a vacancy's coming up because the current repuke is taking a job in Booby Jindal's administration.
And he wouldn't be anywhere near the dumbest member of Congress.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)we already have along with some Dems who vote with the RW Crazies?
SIGH.....
ellie
(6,927 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)npk
(3,660 posts)Thank gawd we have reality teevee stars to help guide us on these important issues.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)y
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This review is from: Deer Hunting with Jesus: Dispatches from America's Class War (Hardcover)
Let me begin by saying that, as an escapee in 1974 from Red State Indiana to Bluest of Blue New York City where I discovered my own liberal bona fides, I hope every New Yawker, Bostonian, Connecticut Yankee, San Franciscan, Portlander (OR), and Seattlean reads Joe Bageant's DEER HUNTING WITH JESUS. Along with every East and West Coast Democratic Congressman, Senator, and Presidential aspirant. Why? Understanding a different country within our country, developing a modicum of identification or at least empathy, developing and further promoting national policies to address the societal needs of working class America, and (if for no other reason) increasing the chances of re-establishing and maintaining Democratic control of Congress, the White House, and someday the Supreme Court.
Bageant is not some liberal academician who just helicoptered in Margaret Mead-like for a brief, notebook-in-hand stay with the indigenous peoples of Winchester, Virginia. Rather, DEER HUNTING WITH JESUS describes the author's return to live in his hometown after a thirty-year absence in such far-flung left wing havens as Boulder, CO , Eugene, OR, and the Coeur d'Alene (ID) Indian Reservation. What he discovers is a town far different than the one of his boyhood, a place where "average folks" are uneducated, hopelessly parochial and uninformed, terrified of getting sick, and anesthetized by materialism, religious fundamentalism, and eight hours a day of television. They spend most of their lives resentful of "elites" and the rich, but resigned to their lot, all the while living on an economic precipice.
In each chapter, Bageant tackles one aspect of rural, working class life: Republicanism, debt and bankruptcy, gun ownership, religion, allegiance to the military and military ideals, health care, and education and the American lifestyle as delivered by Wal-mart and the mass media. In almost every instance, however, the author combines exposition and revealing statistics with highly personal accounts based on the lives of Winchester's citizenry. From the first pages at the Royal Lunch to the book's closing back there again, Bageant tells his story through the townspeople. We meet Dink Lamp and Pootie, the karaoke-loving Dottie, local rich guy Bobby Fulk, Woody McCauley and his wife Ruth, Tommy Ray, longtime friend Tom Henderson, old high school flame and Rubbermaid factory worker Carolyn, and Joe's demon-exorcising, Baptist pastor brother, Mike. In his one major diversion out of Winchester to the nearby town of Fort Ashby (WV), Bageant relates the fascinating story of that town's native daughter and serial Abu Gharib abuser, Lynndie England. Some of their stories are illustrative, while others are stunning in their subject's naivete and a few are simply heartbreaking. Bageant tells their stories, especially those of Dottie and Ruth, with a touching tenderness and humanity, and without a trace of condescension. In the end, most of Winchester's working class are simply economic victims of the broader American society, most fooled by corporations, government leaders, and the media into believing they are living the average Joe's American Dream.
Of course, Bageant's imposed reality on these individuals tells the real tale, the one few if any in Winchester comprehend. Working class America is grossly undereducated and overfed, hypnotized to near catatonia by television and right wing talk radio, underpaid but duped into believing that unions will only worsen their plight, and lacking in health care and retirement benefits. The lives of many of the people in DEER HUNTING WITH JESUS will ultimately be dictated by events and forces outside their control and understanding. Yet they march along in political lockstep, conservative Republican to the core without knowing why, responding with emotion rather than reason to religious and political appeals designed for just that purpose.
Similar to books like Ehrenreich's NICKEL AND DIMED or the New York Times's series compendium CLASS MATTERS, Joe Bageant gets truly up close and personal with small town, working class, Blue State America. Instead of Thomas Frank's intriguing but more academic WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH KANSAS?, we get a microcosmic, small town equivalent - a sort of "What's the Matter with Winchester, Virginia?" The difference in Bageant's book (from Ehrenreich's and the Times's), however, is that his agenda is overtly and in your face political, yet done with humor and a genuine feeling of care and concern for the townsfolk who populate his writing. Hopefully, this book will also provide (liberal) Democrats with increased insight on how to finally begin reaching a large segment of the American population. Bageant makes it clear that improved education, a livable minimum wage, and access to affordable health care would be good places to start.
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40 of 41 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Serious Book Highly Recommended, July 1, 2008
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Robert David STEELE Vivas (Oakton, VA United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Deer Hunting with Jesus: Dispatches from America's Class War (Hardcover)
Senator Obama may or may not have read this book. It's author does open with the observation that life is so hard among the white poor and working poor that they seek solace in beer, overeating, Jesus, and guns. This is, however, a very serious book, a first-hand deep look into the hearts and minds of the 60% of the country that cannot control its lifestyle, environment, pay check, or future.
Early on I note that the author appears to combine both education and common sense. There are magnificent turns of phrase throughout.
My fly-leaf notes:
+ Parallel world to that of the educated urban liberals
+ Life runs from complete insecurity to looming job insecurity
+ Just over half the poor in the US are white and this is the only group that is growing in number
+ For someone earning $8 an hour, if nothing goes wrong, they have $55 a week for groceries, gas, and incidentals
+ Insurance can cost as much as rent or mortgage
+ One third of working Americans make less than $9 an hour
+ They are inherently anti-union, facts are irrelevant, Christian radio is their primary source of information and viewpoint
+ This is a permanent underclass, two out of five have no high school diploma while all over 50 have major health issues, and low to no credit
+ The leftist middle class does not realize that this group votes right in part out of a feeling of revenge
+ Right owns the bars, the non-Internet real world
+ Left lost the middle when they demonized guns and gun owners--70 million gun owners, 200 million guns, guns are used to protect 60 times more often than they are used to attack
+ Superb multi-page discussion of whitetrashonomics and the trailer mortgage scams
+ Fundamentalists are superbly organized, home schooling leads to select colleges where political indoctrination is part of the deal
+ Sense of Rapture and Left Behind is very real within this group
+ Excellent discussion of how health "non-profits" are a real-estate valuation scam that serve only the well-off and not the poor
+ Television and petroleum have defined us
The author makes it a point to quote and point to a dirty dozen books that he drew on, but overall this is an essay from the heart with a great deal of intellect and a great deal of discipline in the presentation.
Initech
(99,910 posts)Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)Now I have yet another reason to never watch this stupid fucking show.
typeviic
(61 posts)that their viewership demographic has many things in common, such as;
NASCAR
BUD LIGHT
Fox News
Right Wing politics
Glenn Beck
Tea Party
Evangelical Christian Zionism
Worship of Israel
Wash, rinse, repeat
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)healthcare or education. But Whee! Abortion is evil! WHee!
muntrv
(14,505 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)the suffering, to them, is a bonus.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The show plays to the tea party who wants to return to the traditional and failed patriarchy.
Give me a Gates/Soros/Buffett any day. They have done an infinite amount more good than these rednecks who promote the traditional militant patriarchy of past.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Dem Party Recently forgot these folks. We need to get them back into the Dem Fold.
But...we've done them dirty for awhile. That's why they hooked up with Koch and Fundies.
We Dems stopped caring for them. And, then they had nowhere to go.
I know this sounds absurd to many of you...but, if you think and reflect a bit...you will understand that the Dem Party started to look like Party of the ELITES...and the REPUGS...started to work with the Dem Workers to their DEMISE..with Koch/Alec and the Fundie Christian Money from Falwell and the Big Ministries going after them and distorting a message of Peace and Sharing with the Poor...to BIG Government and Jesus are Working for Buffett/Wall Street/Goldman Sachs and Big Banks and You BETTER GET THAT...or you are nothing but "Idiot Red Neck."
Both parties Manipulate. We need to work HARDER at being FDR Dems and not CORPORATE DEMS drinking from the same Well as the Repugs..