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NealK

(1,864 posts)
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:41 PM Aug 2013

US Official Admits That UK Detention Of Glenn Greenwald's Partner Was 'To Send A Message'

by Mike Masnick

Tue, Aug 20th 2013

Buried in a Reuters report about the UK government's ridiculous decision to force the Guardian to destroy some hard drives with Snowden-related materials, is the fact that the reporter got a US official to admit that the detention of Glenn Greenwald's partner, David Miranda, was all about "sending a message" to anyone who had the Snowden documents:

One U.S. security official told Reuters that one of the main purposes of the British government's detention and questioning of Miranda was to send a message to recipients of Snowden's materials, including the Guardian, that the British government was serious about trying to shut down the leaks.

That's what many people had assumed, but to have it admitted by an official just shows how incredibly stupid this whole thing was. The only message it sent was that the UK government has gone way overboard in abusing the law for reasons of personal thuggery, rather than any legitimate purpose. The law they used was an anti-terrorism law, and they flat out used it to intimidate the press. That's not how the government in a free country acts. The outrage over all of this (both the detention and the hard drive destruction) isn't just going to go away. These actions are, in some ways, worse than the original reports, because they confirm the petty vindictiveness of those in power against journalists doing their job in exposing the abuse of people's rights.

It's this very reason why people are so concerned about the collection of all of this data. If the government has no problem detaining people under bogus pretenses to "send a message" to journalists, while also threatening to shut down newspapers and forcing them to destroy hard drives, what else might they already be doing with all of that personal data and information they've been sucking up?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130820/03160924251/us-official-admits-that-uk-detention-glenn-greenwalds-partner-was-to-send-message.shtml

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US Official Admits That UK Detention Of Glenn Greenwald's Partner Was 'To Send A Message' (Original Post) NealK Aug 2013 OP
White House knew Glenn Greenwald's partner David Miranda would be detained cantbeserious Aug 2013 #1
Occupy already "got the message" regarding peaceful 1st Amendment protest Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #2
no shit. The only amendment of importance left standing is the 2nd Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #8
... a message also to say we will go after friends, family and relatives to get you, any of you. RKP5637 Aug 2013 #3
It sounds like something the Mob would do. NealK Aug 2013 #6
You are so right. Watch this. tsuki Aug 2013 #11
Thanks, have it saved to watch later. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #19
It's heavy handed bullshit like that which gopiscrap Aug 2013 #4
Right. They weren't prosecuting "stolen documents" or "terrorism." DirkGently Aug 2013 #5
+1 NealK Aug 2013 #9
Police state message indisputably delivered. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #7
And our response will be ...? DirkGently Aug 2013 #10
I can only speak for myself. My response is a massive increase in distrust, cynicism, pessimism, and MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #14
Someone had suggested a certain crude DirkGently Aug 2013 #22
FUCKIN OBAMA!! Should've been a dictator to UK and tell them to stop! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #12
Thanks for the kick. NealK Aug 2013 #13
Good Christ but that's pathetic. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #16
Pathetic and also borderline pathological. NealK Aug 2013 #17
Funny. In a sad, ineffective way. DirkGently Aug 2013 #21
Sickening. AzDar Aug 2013 #15
Naked authoritarianism. blackspade Aug 2013 #18
Pathetic... ocpagu Aug 2013 #20

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
1. White House knew Glenn Greenwald's partner David Miranda would be detained
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:43 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/19/world/europe/greenwald-partner-detained

(CNN) -- Glenn Greenwald, the reporter who broke the news about secret U.S. surveillance programs, said the authorities who took his partner into custody at London's Heathrow Airport "are going to regret what they did."

"I am going to write my stories a lot more aggressively now," the Guardian reporter told Brazil's Globo TV on Monday in Rio de Janeiro.

"I am going to publish many more documents now. I am going to publish a lot about England, too, I have a lot of documents about the espionage system in England. Now my focus is going to be that as well."

Greenwald's partner, 28-year-old David Miranda, was held for nearly nine hours. He was reportedly passing through the airport on his way home to Brazil after leaving Berlin. Authorities seized his laptop, phone, and other materials.

The White House knew the move was coming.

Snip ...
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
2. Occupy already "got the message" regarding peaceful 1st Amendment protest
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:43 PM
Aug 2013

and civil disobedience. Now journalists need to "get the message" about attempted journalism.

To whom shall they next send a message?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. no shit. The only amendment of importance left standing is the 2nd
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:35 PM
Aug 2013

It is almost as if they are channeling legitimate dissent toward armed insurrection. Gee, why would they do that?

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
3. ... a message also to say we will go after friends, family and relatives to get you, any of you.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:48 PM
Aug 2013

... a message to try to scare the sh** out of everyone, non-compliance will not be tolerated.

Yep, back to the good old days.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. Right. They weren't prosecuting "stolen documents" or "terrorism."
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:00 PM
Aug 2013

It was intimidation aimed at silencing government critics. Period.

Which we all knew already.
 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
14. I can only speak for myself. My response is a massive increase in distrust, cynicism, pessimism, and
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:30 AM
Aug 2013

Fear for the future.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
22. Someone had suggested a certain crude
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:35 PM
Aug 2013

epithet rhyming with "duck stew!"

That might be a decent start, actually.
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