"Glenn Greenwald's straight crush Ron Paul"

[boston bean]

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/07/how-professional-lefts-blind-obama.html#.Udc6EHKkJ8Y.facebook

That's the type of homophobic bullshit you can find on The Peoples View website.

Calling Greenwalds spouse a "bi-stander"

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/08/why-british-may-have-had-good-reason-to.html

And that's just a couple that have tipped me off by whats posted at that website. If you read closely you can find many instances of this crap, emanating from that site. Was fortunate to read them all because people are using that piece of crap website here on DU.

[villager]

1. Why is that hate site even allowed to be a linked source here at DU?

[LondonReign2]

11. Indeed

If one constantly linked in support to Brietbart, would that be allowed to continue? I see very little difference in this site and that.

[sabrina 1]

83. Good question, I have been amazed to see it linked here.

.

Hate is what they are about, hate for the Left. Much like the Cave. It is a troll site, always was. A bunch of disrupters of Democratic forums from which they have been banned.

[SwampG8r]

87. pay attention to who uses it

as a source and that will answer all questions

[sabrina 1]

90. True, it says a lot. I remember the 'founder' of that site very well from a few years ago

before he was kicked off another Democratic forum after causing nothing but dissension. It appears he has changed his name. They HATE the Left to the point where it's difficult to distinguish between them and any run of the mill Left-hating Right Wing site.

[Zorra]

107. +1 nt

[snappyturtle]

2. I won't even click on it....not going to feed it. nt

[Luminous Animal]

3. And the comments are littered with the homophobic nickname GiGi.

[BrotherIvan]

21. It's disgusting

I'm so surprised that the first posters to cry about racist "dogwhistles" use that and other homophobic dogwhistles the most. Or calling his spouse "the boyfriend".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. What's homophobic about the name "Gigi"?

Is it the 1958 movie? The cupcakes? The spa? The Miami beer joint? The musician? The trattoria?

What makes the name homophobic?

None of the items cited have anything to do with anything; they are just the first hits in Google. There is a Gigi's gay bar in Detroit, but that is the only direct association between "gay" and "Gigi".

Is it because of Gigi Becali who was awarded the "most homophobic person in Romania in 2006"? (look it up)

[Luminous Animal]

30. You must be joking. He is a gay man and his name is Glenn but some of his detractors refer to him

by using a female name.

Homophobic and misogynist.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

51. Thanks for clearing it up. I was not going to visit a gay bashing site like that just for a nickname

It completely slipped my mind what Glenn Greenwald's initials are!

[Bluenorthwest]

32. Calling a gay man by a woman's name is homophobic.

It's like calling Bernardo Bernice with a sneer. It is hard to believe anyone is as obtuse as you claim to be.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

56. Thank you, I think, for calling me obtuse. Sometimes I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I'm so glad you've never had that experience. Must be nice.

[quinnox]

37. No offense, but I think it is fairly obvious why calling a gay guy a female name

is homophobic, it doesn't need much explanation. Just think about it.

[backscatter712]

45. Here, they just use "GG" and say "We're just using his initials!"

Uh-huh. Sure. Just using his initials.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

53. Thanks. The "initials" aspect completely slipped my mind. nt

[one_voice]

82. I always use GG...

rather than type out the full name. Other times I use either just the first or last name.

I'm not homophobic.

[TDale313]

101. Yep. It is the same kind of dog whistle...

as when someone emphasizes BHO and then gets all "What? it's just his middle name"

[HangOnKids]

52. You lived most of your adult life in San Francisco yet this slur confuses you?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. I thought it was a nickname (screenname) for a poster on that site and I wasn't going to visit it.

[HangOnKids]

57. Of course you did.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

58. Sorry to disturb you. nt

[Wilms]

4. It's a DLC-baggers web site. n/t

[geek tragedy]

5. That's disgusting. Even though I sympathize generally with some of the people who post

links from that site, I'll be alerting any time I see it in a post from now on.

[sabrina 1]

85. That is a well known hate site which is not frequented by informed democrats. I

can't imagine who on that site anyone would sympathize with. Most of them are trolls who have been banned from most Democratic Forums.

They were forced into their own little, dark corner of the internet as they are not welcome on real Democratic forums. I good thing, anti-social disruptors are better off congregating in their own space. They have caused problems everywhere they've been. I see a few of them have changed their names, but their MO is the same.

That one thing you find disgusting, is typical of them.

They are here to disrupt, nothing else. It is a hate site like the Cave. Both have the same agenda, smear the Left.

[Marr]

99. +1

[SwampG8r]

89. thank you god

its been a long time since we have agreed but here we find common ground

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. My doctor has me on a strict diet. No garbage. TPV falls under those instructions.

[quinnox]

7. Not surprised. The site is just another idiotic kool-aid drinker anyway

Anyone can set up a website blog these days, and garbage like this is the result. I ignore it completely, just as I do with the Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter websites.

[demmiblue]

8. Wow, that is really disturbing given how many times that source is linked to/recced.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Despicable

[Vinnie From Indy]

10. Never been there and don't intend to start now!

Some of the shit posted here from there is bad enough.

k & r

[boston bean]

12. I didn't have to visit the site, each and every bigoted morsel was posted right here on DU.

[JRLeft]

13. So, true.

[William769]

15. From people who have a crush on Ron Paul but don't have the balls to admit it. nt

[boston bean]

17. It's all over those articles from that site.

I've been saying it out loud lately, and t myself for months.

[sabrina 1]

86. And recommended sadly by a small number of people here.

[idwiyo]

14. Absolutely disgusting.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

16. I know of one jackass in particular keeps spamming us with that garbage. nt

[Rex]

18. The owner of that site hates Obama because

of his stance toward the LGBT community. Yes, you read that correctly. I guess that is also the reason he refused to vote for Obama.
IMO total crap site, but bashes the left so it fits the narrative here on DU.

Sad ain't it?

[Cryptoad]

26. the Left of the Far Left

meets the Right of the Far Right is common place......its name is Anarchy!

[geek tragedy]

35. Sadly, it's actually a mindless Obama cheerleading site.

They're all in favor of GLBT rights and oppose homophobia when Obama speaks out in favor of civil rights, but then if someone who's GLBT dares criticize Obama, they resort to rank homophobia.

[Bluenorthwest]

41. Except for the thing where the 'writer' said he was not voting for Obama in the general against

Mitt. It is a mindless poo flinging site that affects many things that may or may not be true things.

[sabrina 1]

98. They are trolls, period. Nothing they have to say is said for any reason other than to trash

what they call the 'Left'. That means Democrats. They have fooled no one over the years, it's hard to hide hate, it oozes through no matter how hard they try in order to spend a little longer on sites like this before being kicked off as they usually are.

I expect nothing of them, but what is disturbing is to see that they got any encouragement here at all. Especially seeing their usual flame bait headlines, typical of them. Shame to see anyone fall for it there. Usually they are outed as soon as they show up.

[Aerows]

19. Awful

I guess homophobia is okay these days on DU, provided that it is directed at people we don't like.

[Bluenorthwest]

20. It's a heinous site and has a variety of horrors so those who approve of it in this instance will

find themselves neck deep in bullshit to defend.

[enigmatic]

22. The people who keep reccing this site had to have known what was in the posts themselves

Think about that for a second.

They knew but still recced every post that was posted here because the blogger was attacking people who they themselves hated.

All of them should be ashamed.

[quinnox]

24. Good point. It will be interesting to see if in future this hate site's articles are posted,

and we can see all those who applaud it and recommend it, well, we will know exactly what they are endorsing.

[enigmatic]

42. I'd love to have them come to this OP to explain their rationale for reccing those posts

knowing what was in that blog. Any of them.

I'm not holding my breath but still, it would be illuminating to see their explanations.

[Dragonfli]

75. I don't usually point out the obvious but that site is second only to Obamadiary as the favorite

source to post from in the BOG.

Boggers love that site even more than they hate those to the left of Rahm Emanuel. Do you really think they will abandon their second favorite posting source simply because of hate and homophobia?

Come on, you know them better than that, there are thousands of articles from that site that will yet be posted to fuel the focused hatred that is the trademark of the typical Bogger.

[enigmatic]

76. Forget about the homophobia of that site for a minute

as vile as it is; does it seem a little strange that a site where the blogger says that they hate the President so much that they didn't vote for him in the last election would be so popular w/ a group that protects that same President at all costs from any criticism?

Does that make sense to anyone here? I can't figure it out.

[Dragonfli]

84. Oh that, yes that makes perfect sense - to the indoctrinated (no matter what the specific doctrine)

Any source that repeats parts of the doctrine are considered correct and edifying simply for repeating parts of the doctrine.

Think about it, If a non Christian prints "God Bless America" what he prints is applauded and pointed out by Christians, the fact that the author may be a Buddhist or something else is not important to the indoctrinated, the phrase is considered both reaffirming and edifying and so nothing other than the repeated bit of doctrine is considered at that point.

Similarly when you live in a small absurd bubble that REQUIRES YOU ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE that all things Obama are good and pure as the driven snow and all criticism of Obama is nothing more than a lie or outright sacrilege spouted with nothing but evil racist intent, one looks for sources to feed on, such justification of an absurd doctrine is not as easy to find as one might expect, so such is welcomed from any source where they may find such rare gems of edification and agreement.

There is seething hatred of a journalist that criticizes Obama to be found on that site, such gems are quite valuable to those seeking reinforcement and edification.

That's my take anyway.

[enigmatic]

93. I guess I can see that to an extent

But it's like the adage of "The Enemy Of The Enemy Is My Friend", except they consider your friend the Enemy, too!

I do know what you're saying, though.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. One poster said that very clearly:

21. People's View rec...
'cause I know so many neo-DUers hate this site.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3500636

[Luminous Animal]

34. And what the hell are neo-Duers?

The poster won't answer me.

[Bluenorthwest]

38. The poster very specifically Rec's the People's View, not just the OP but the site.

And that sites disavowed Obama and snitted about not voting for him in the general election as well as all of the other venomous crapola. I'm fairly surprised that those who claim to be vigilant supporters of Obama would rec that post, in fact is causes me to question that support which could simply be affected as a cover for insulting Democrats all day everyday. An actual supporter would spit at that People's View tripe, contempt for that site should rightfully be a unifying moment for DU in general. The site just flings random poo at the target of the day, Obama, Greenwald, whomever the blogger wants to target that day....never Republicans of course, just by chance of course.....

[Dragonfli]

78. Ones that would rather have single payer Canadian health rather than the uniquely American insurance

Favored by pragmatists like Sid.

I remember when he ridiculed me for wanting a health policy similar to his because he felt Obama's plan was superior or something.

I assume by now he has finalized plans to move to the US for the superior quality of our developing Heritage Foundation profit over care model. If he hasn't yet he surely will soon, we was absolutely brutal towards idiots like me that felt the Canadian approach was better and we all know people that behave and dress as clowns are NEVER hypocrites.

[demmiblue]

40. Geez, what an asshole. n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

80. Sid. What a lovely fellow he is.

I just finished up 90 days of hosting dealing with his partisan dishonest bullshit. He shut up for a while after his buddy graham4wtf got booted, then found a bunch of new hosts who were lock happy and got back into it, never once veering from his goal of suppressing opinions he disagreed with, not even trying to appear objective.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

94. Why is this tolerated by the site owners?

Guess I should ATA.

[Warren Stupidity]

103. In all fairness, they might not see it as being as black and white as I did.

I put out up above my honest opinion of what my experience was as a gd host. But that is just my opinion. Because there is an agreement to act as a group rather than individually among the gd hosts, partisan shenanigans are generally ineffective. Annoying, but ineffective.

[sabrina 1]

100. Yes, I was surprised to see any recs for the site. They have a bad, bad reputation

and have had for a long time. And for good reason.

[myrna minx]

25. This homophobic nastiness should not be tolerated here. n/t

[Cryptoad]

29. NO,,,,,, more sand for your head? nt

[myrna minx]

36. Purple.monkey.dishwasher.

[Dragonfli]

92. Ah! So you speak it's language, perhaps you can translate what it communicates after your exchange

as I suck with languages and am very curious as to what that weirdness means.


Thanks in advance!

[myrna minx]

106. I find when I read a word salad, a nonsensical quote from the Simpsons is an effective reply.

[NuclearDem]

49. Only one with their head in the sand is the person defending this hate site.

I'll give you a hint: it ain't the person you replied to.

[quinnox]

62. Are you a fan of the site? Because you sound a little upset

about this OP, judging from your responses in the thread.

[Dragonfli]

88. What the fuck does that mean? I really would like a translation please

As it stands it sounds like something one might say after suffering severe head trauma. I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt on this and ask for the translation on the off chance it really is more than just the simple, meaningless, random synapses firing from a severely damaged organ.

[Cryptoad]

105. If you are unable to grasp what I posted

i dont think having more sand to stick your head in is going to help!

[Dragonfli]

109. So, it's a secret language then and you don't want us to know what you mean?

K.

[Cryptoad]

112. Google is your friend

just google "putting head in Sand"

geez

[backscatter712]

43. +1! I'm for tombstoning every fucker that repeats that homophobic garbage! n/t

[DisgustipatedinCA]

28. Michgandem58 posts from the site on a daily basis. SidDithers loves it.

File under "Completely Expected".

[Cryptoad]

31. Are you a Seer? nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

33. No. I'm a reader.

I'll tell you all about it sometime.

[Bluenorthwest]

39. It is not a secret, it is clearly announced.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3500636

[WorseBeforeBetter]

96. Are you G4A? (n/t)

[Cryptoad]

104. Pardon my ignorance

what is a G4A

[JimDandy]

60. Can't figure out why

that poster is still here.

[MisterP]

44. check my sigline; and I never understand why they always take Communist and Civil-Rights usernames

(AngryBlackLady, anyone?) while posting nothing but the most Cheneyite stuff--almost a parody of the dime-store StateSec wannabes running around IRL and online under Chimpy
it's what an infiltrator would look like if they had no idea how to infiltrate

[OnyxCollie]

46. I can think of 1 who does that.

Sounds like he's on Pro's talking point email list.

[MisterP]

47. in my experience, anyone with a Leninist or Luxemburgist handle has 1:2 odds of being a foaming RWer

[WorseBeforeBetter]

79. AngryBlackLady crashed and burned; Spandan will, too. (n/t)

[KittyWampus]

48. This thread ends up looking really stupid because the website's owner is gay.

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2007/10/obama-lost-my-vote-general-election-too.html

[DisgustipatedinCA]

50. No, that's covered in the thread

You should consider reading threads before making judgments about how silly they look. You'd be in a better position to make a point that makes sense.

[KittyWampus]

59. since so many of a particular clique are determined to push the homophobic angle...

and the OP pretty much is doing that…

But hey, rationalize it any way you want to.

[sabrina 1]

72. Look, the site is a Troll site, most of them are banned from other Dem forums for disruption

They hate the Left, and most people leave them alone in their small, whining dark corner of the INternet. Sort of like the Cave on the other side.

Trolls contribute to that site, and as far as I'm concerned, I'm glad they found somewhere other sane blogs, to vent and spew their hatred for the Left.

Their reputations is longstanding, going back years. Trolls, nothing more than that.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

81. I'd suggest reading Orwell, too.

Another classic DU moment.

[quinnox]

55. So, do you think the terms used in the OP are homophobic?

that are quoted from the site. Just curious.

for instance, saying Greenwald has a straight crush on Ron Paul. Or that his partner is a "bi-stander". Or calling Greenwald by the name "GiGi".

Do you not have any problems with those at all?

[bullwinkle428]

67. Yes, and Zimmerman can't be a racist because he's Hispanic!

[SwampG8r]

68. post a map showing us

the way to the truth

[Luminous Animal]

77. I live in the Castro in San Francisco. When my daughter was 6, we rented

a room to a new housemate. He was gay and spouted some of the most homophobic bile I have ever heard. He was not being ironic.

I had to ask him to leave because not only did it disgust me but I absolutely could not allow my daughter to hear his hateful anti-guy insults.

[Marr]

102. I'm not surprised to you showing up to defend that site. /nt

[nashville_brook]

61. disgusting.

[frylock]

63. isn't this asshole alledged to have an account here also?

[winter is coming]

65. Gosh, I wonder which one it could be?

[frylock]

66. i have a few candidates in mind

[sabrina 1]

64. The 'People's View' is a TROLL site. It consists of people who have been banned from most

Democratic forums. Look for names like Deaniac, with a number, can't remember the number. They go around creating discord on Democratic Sites, as they are doing here.

Most people ignore them.

Best to not even click that site and give them the hits they so desperately want.

Thanks for the OP. It's astounding that they get any support here whatsoever, considering their reputation all over the internet.

[MelungeonWoman]

69. Deaniac appears to have changed his name.

In this post from a few years ago, commenters are replying to Spandan with the name Deaniac.

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2010/12/tuesday-open-thread-new-years.html#disqus_thread

[sabrina 1]

70. Lol, that's no surprise. When you become as infamous as a Disruptor as he did, it is probably

your only option.

Absolutely not surprised, that is one hateful person, especially when it comes to the 'left'. Never saw him slam the Right, just the Left. Mean, nasty and a total disruptor everywhere he goes.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

91. Spandan C = Deaniac83

Hey, I rhymed!

He loved Dean, then hated Dean, hence the name change (I'm guessing...).

[sabrina 1]

95. I remember him well and the consensus was he was nothing but a disruptor on Democratic

Forums.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

97. He can wallow in his toxic blog, with nothing but an amen chorus...

replying to him.

Sometimes I think they're RNC staffers. This from a People's View poster re: Harry Reid:

Ivee > andystitt829
• 3 years ago

....

Woe betide the people who underestimate him; they never see him coming.

Yes, that's EXACTLY what I think about Harry Reid. Then again, I'm part of the Howling Left...

[Ocelot]

71. What about Obama's "Bromance" with Dick Cheney?

By this same logic, since Obama and Cheney are both cool with NSA spying & overreach, they must be romantically infatuated with each other.

[enigmatic]

73. None of the people who have recced that site have come to this thread to explain themselves but one

And she never answered a direct question on whether they thought the examples provided were homophobic.

If they thought they were in the right, why not answer the question?

[demmiblue]

74. .

[Little Star]

108. Color me clueless. I never noticed that site or heard about...

it before reading this thread. Thanks for the informative eye opener your Op & the comments to it have given me.

YUCK! That place is nasty and filled with trolls.

[dionysus]

110. that comment was not cool nt.

[Douglas Carpenter]

111. this is the same hate site promoting the jouranlism = terrorism meme

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023500463#post42

I might mention that as right-wing extremist as that particular article from the very same hate site is - it was recommended by 28 DU members - many from the usual pro-authoritarian clique. I had actually alerted on it. But by a 5-1 vote the jury voted to keep it. I even raised the issue with the Administrators and they felt there was nothing to worry about at least regarding that article from this very same site.

[enigmatic]

114. Just a hunch

and I may be wrong of course, but I don't think we'll be seeing any new posts from that site being posted here w/ rec's anymore after this thread has outed the vileness in the site itself for all to see.

[Douglas Carpenter]

113. knr

[QC]

115. kick

[Rex]

116. The site is owned by a man that refused to vote for Obama

YET pretends he has some authority to judge others that DID?

FUCK HIM! It is embarrassing that hate site gets posted here by ONE person...that should know better.