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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreenwald Critic Jeffrey Toobin Stole Classified Documents for Profit
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/08/20/jeffrey-toobin-preaches-on-sanctity-of-government-secrets-despite-once-stealing-classified-documents/This guy is GRADE A HYPOCRITE!
Toobin, it turned out, had been using his tenure in Walshs office to secretly prepare a tell-all book about the Iran-contra case; the privileged documents, along with a meticulously kept private diary (in which the young Toobin, a sort of proto-Linda Tripp, had been documenting private conversations with his unsuspecting colleagues) were to become his prime bait to snare a book deal. Toobins conduct enraged his fellow lawyers in Walshs office, many of whom viewed his actions as an indefensible betrayal of the public trust. Walsh at one point even considered pressing for Toobins indictment.
Toobin was petrified that he would have to face criminal charges for stealing information for a rather dubious book deal. According to Isikoff, he either feared dismissal and disgrace, or simply wanted to move on. Toobin resigned from the U.S. Attorneys office in Brooklyn (where he had gone to work after Walsh) and abandoned the practice of law.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)of them.
But he is one of the 'experts' who are part of the safe pool of 'experts' the Corporate Media has approved of.
hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)He needs a tall glass of STFU juice.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)Toobin, 49, has been married since 1986 to his Harvard sweetheart, 51-year-old Amy McIntosh, who has held top positions with Verizon and the Zagat Survey.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/opinion/editorial-notebook-peddling-iran-contra-secrets.html
And for the appeal:
AUTHOR(S)Reid, C.
PUB. DATEApril 1991
SOURCEPublishers Weekly;4/12/1991, Vol. 238 Issue 17, p12
SOURCE TYPETrade Publication
DOC. TYPEArticle
ABSTRACTAnnounces that the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit dismissed as moot Iran-Contra prosecutor Lawrence E. Walsh's appeal of the lower court ruling that allowed Jeffrey Toobin's controversial book, `Opening Arguments,' to be published. Court's criticism of Penguin USA; Further details of litigation; More.
http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/9104291268/court-moots-walshs-arguments-appeal-criticizes-penguin-usa
What Toobin did may have been ethically smarmy, but it apparently did not break any laws. As for the contention that he stopped practicing law ... well, so did Glenn Greenwald. And the latter is making money off his disclosures of stolen material.
The only thing I can say, is at least Toobin didn't try to make his name defending a Nazi who ended up in prison for soliciting the death of the judge in the case being tried. Ouch.
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)And the journalists who make the biggest headlines generally are paid the largest salaries.
Journalists can write for newspapers or publish their journalistic findings in books. Neither is done for free, unless you're on the student newspaper.
PS: Interesting that you don't comment on my main point: that, indeed, this case WAS actually put before the justice system, contrary to the assertions being thrown about in this thread.
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)You people are ridiculous. How dare he take a salary!!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)I cede you your own mindset to enjoy without pesky intervention from dissenting opinion or consideration of a range of facts. Uncle. I realize that conversation is not a possibility with some, so I graciously bow out.
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)he takes donations for his *ahem, work.
and every time there is news on his caper, his donation metre go ding ding ding from all the loyalists. I'm sure he is getting some nice cash since the Miranda episode.
ding ding ding
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)I don't think the Guardian pays his lying ass in salary, he just gets donation money.
I probably could find it, but I won't bother as I am sure you aren't interested in seeing it -- it's an article by his own self and at the end he explains how this is the new way for 'journalists' *cough, spit*, to get paid.
At least we know Rachel and Ed and Tweets get paid by GE who make lots of their money from war and that's why there was only one voice against the war at nbc, Phil Donahue, and he got his ass fired,
but I guess we aren't allowed to know who is investing in GG's shit stirring.
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)how does that affect the information he reports on? I'm sure you didn't despise Greenwald asking for donations when he was reporting on Buch Co. What matters to you above all else is protecting Obama.
You don't even know if he takes a salary or not so maybe you ought to focus on NSA reporting.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)for what kind of information to put out.
I mean if a Koch Bro stuffed some cash in GGs jeans, or maybe some Fuck Ron Paulers...
if it's kept secret it similar to the Citisen's United ruling, isn't it - which GG was in favour of....
hmmm
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)Likewise I deal with the argument put forward rather than try to tear down the messenger b/c I can't refute the information put forward.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)
(on edit: I see I did not, so I don't expect to hear a reply about the link you have been asking for) you do seem to actually want to see this, so I found it for you (turns out I was wrong, o well):
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/04/reader-funded-journalism
Reader-funded journalism
This model is vital in sustaining real journalism: it fosters independence, invests readers in the work that is done, and keeps journalists accountable to individuals
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Currently, this is not the conventional way journalism is funded in establishment circles, but I'm convinced it's the better way. For a deeply struggling field, and whether they want it or not, this is the way of the future: the short-term future at that, and I think that's a very positive development. I'm truly appreciative of all readers who spend their time coming here, and grateful for those who in the past have supported the work I do. Those who wish to do so this year can do that here(link).
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)to be the same Greenwald would have to have a job at the NSA and steal files. Snowden is the one who sought out Greenwald along with other journalists. Also, Greenwald has accepted donations since he was an independent blogger focusing on Bush and I don't recall anyone making a fuss back then.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)yes, that fits with his general message.
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Lawyers often write self-praising books, but they don't usually betray clients and bosses or spill secrets that aren't theirs to sell. Mr. Toobin is no First Amendment hero but an opportunistic practitioner who searched for contract loopholes while his colleagues focused on Iran-contra. One wonders whether Mr. Toobin, as a junior Federal prosecutor now or in practice later, will need an ironclad no-publish contract to win the trust of his witnesses, clients or superiors.
Ouch. Though I am sympathetic to getting information out to the public.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Thanks for posting!
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Not sure what happened to him. He is now completely in the tank for Obama, its embarrassing to see.
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)riverbendviewgal
(4,251 posts)I get feelings and toobin is indeed smarmy as brought up in another post. Gut feelings , intuition I have does not trust toobin. I feel like jack webb when it comes to Greenwald and Snowden. They are giving facts. Very believable facts.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Ouch. That's one of the cruelest things that can be said about a person. It sounds like it was applied to just the right tool.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Autumn
(44,762 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)She was not prosecuted.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I'm sure GG gave whathersstupidass name at FDL the thumbs up to find stuff on Toobin. But all is fair in these kinds of wars, I'm sure Toobin will have an interesting response if he will want to bother.
G_j
(40,366 posts)don't think it took much digging
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)"Oh it's from FDL I don't have to think for myself if the information is true or not? I don't have to burn the calories to assuage my cognitive dissonance."
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)Cheers!
Toobin should quit poking at Greenwald. It isn't working out for him at all.
navarth
(5,927 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)Robb
(39,665 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)If Toobin pilfered the documents just to write articles, in a column which he already had, it would be.
NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)articles it would be similar and yet Toobin still wouldn't have the legitimacy to criticize Greenwald. Using the logic of NSA-defenders Toobin is on par or worse than Snowden.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Toobin....what a tool.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)When anybody else does it, not so much.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Ever since I began political writing, I've relied on annual reader donations to enable me to do the journalism I want to do: first when I wrote at my own Blogspot page and then at Salon. Far and away, that has been the primary factor enabling me to remain independent - to be unconstrained in what I can say and do - because it means I'm ultimately accountable to my readers, who don't have an agenda other than demanding that I write what I actually think, that the work I produce be unconstrained by institutional orthodoxies and without fear of negative reaction from anyone. It is also reader support that has directly funded much of the work I do, from being able to have research assistants and other needed resources to avoiding having to do the kind of inconsequential work that distracts from that which I think is most necessary and valuable.
For that reason, when I moved my blog from Salon to the Guardian, the Guardian and I agreed that I would continue to rely in part on reader support. Having this be part of the arrangement, rather than exclusively relying on the Guardian paying to publish the column, was vital to me. It's the model I really I believe in.
It is an indispensable factor in my independence. It enables me to work far more effectively by having the resources I need and to spend my time only on the work which I actually believe can have an impact. It keeps my readers invested in the work I do and keeps me accountable to them. And it's what enables me to know that I'll be able to continue focusing on the issues and advancing the perspectives which I think are vital regardless of who that might alienate. I've spent all of this week extensively traveling and working continuously on what will be a huge story: something made possible by being at the Guardian but also by my ability to devote all of my time and efforts to projects like this one.
Currently, this is not the conventional way journalism is funded in establishment circles, but I'm convinced it's the better way. For a deeply struggling field, and whether they want it or not, this is the way of the future: the short-term future at that, and I think that's a very positive development. I'm truly appreciative of all readers who spend their time coming here, and grateful for those who in the past have supported the work I do. Those who wish to do so this year can do that here.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/04/reader-funded-journalism
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Freakin' hack.