NRA built massive database of gun owners while opposing national gun registry

[CatWoman]

The National Rifle Association has frightened Americans about the prospect of a federal registry of firearm owners, but the NRA itself has secretly created a database with information from tens of millions of Americans who do not hold a membership.

The NRA has spent years secretly collecting information about gun owners from state and local offices and has built the country’s largest privately held database of current, former and prospective gun owners, according to a BuzzFeed report.

News of the NRA’s database is particularly surprising, since the pro-gun agency heavily protested the idea of a federal gun registry after the Newtown massacre led to debates on increased background checks. Even though 91 percent of Americans supported universal background checks, lawmakers were unable to push such an initiative through Congress. At the time, the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre instilled a widespread fear that universal background checks would lead to a national registry of gun owners, which critics said could lead to taxes on guns or confiscation.

“That’s what [the feds] are after, the names of good, decent people all over this country, who happen to own firearms to go into a federal database or universal registration, every lawful gun owner in America,” LaPierre said in a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “That’s their answer to criminal violence… are they insane?”

But that’s exactly what the NRA has been doing for years. The organization’s database includes personal information from people who have attended gun-safety classes taught by NRA-certified instructors or gun shows. The NRA also collected gun permit information from state and county offices, as well as the names of gun magazine subscribers.

http://rt.com/usa/nra-database-guns-registry-811/

[tularetom]

1. One click of the mouse from a disgruntled staff member and the whole shitaroo goes to the NSA

In fact it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the NSA already has it.

[CatWoman]

7. i just love that graphic

[ileus]

11. You know the NSA has all this info and more on gun owners.

Last edited Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:18 PM - Edit history (1)

a 4473 is filled out on every firearm sold through FFL's and you know that info is swiped. Now the question is are credit card purchases of firearm related components also tracked.

[tularetom]

13. 4473's are allegedly destroyed within 24 hours of a purchase

That's supposedly been the case since 2005. ATF claims to not have a registry but I've never really believed that.

I purchase a fair amount of reloading components online. Powder, primers, bullets. Obviously all this is paid for by credit card and I've always assumed that anybody who wanted to know this could find it out from my bank or from the retailers who sell me the stuff.

[ileus]

14. Doesn't the FFL keep their copy forever?

[tularetom]

15. Yep, my mistake

Just called my kid who is an ex cop and well up on the law. The FFL is required to keep his copy for 20 years.

Lots of opportunity for mischief there, huh?

[Cali_Democrat]

2. CatWoman

Someone was looking for you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023507021

[rrneck]

3. A registry attaches specific guns to their owners.

It documents chain of custody. I don't think the NRA has a list of your guns by serial number.

[CatWoman]

8. it wouldn't surprise me if they did

[tularetom]

9. I doubt that also, what they have is a mailing list

And once you get on that mailing list you can't get off.

I got a life membership to the NRA as a gift when I was a kid, back in the day when it was primarily an information/educational resource. And I got a lot of good information from them regarding ballistics, reloading, gunsmithing, safety etc. But at some point it became a political pressure lobbying organization and I began to get bombarded with propaganda. About 20 years ago I contacted them and told them to take back their life membership I didn't like their tactics although I still agreed with many of their goals. I never got a response.

Long story short, I don't think I'm a life member anymore. I don't get the magazine. But I still get a solicitation letter about once a month from good ol' Wayne, filled with gloom and doom predictions about what will happen if I don't join up and give him some money so he can get rid of Democrats (mostly).

I guarantee you they don't have a list of my guns by serial number. Many of them are pre-1898 and were bought from private individuals not subject to any background check.

[kelliekat44]

4. Hello, CatWoman...glad to see you posting. I missed you. nt

[CatWoman]

6. hi Kellie

too much negativity here these days.........

[kelliekat44]

5. Oh, i bet this doesn't get much play in the media. nt

[ileus]

10. Another good reason not to be a member or donate cash.

[WillyT]

12. Off To The Greatest Page !!!