Has 12 years not been enough of this Homeland nonsense?

[kpete]

New NSA Spying Programs Revealed. Why Didn’t Obama Tell Us?

Posted by J Clifford under Homeland Insecurity - Liberty on August 21st, 2013


Blarney, Fairview, Lithium, Oakstar, Stormbrew: These should be the names of guilds organized within the Society of Creative Anachronism. Unfortunately, they are all too real, and not nearly so jolly. These are the names of the National Security electronic surveillance programs that have been exposed tonight.

The NSA military spy chiefs have claimed in recent weeks that the only have the capability of spying on 1.6 percent of the Internet. The information released tonight, obtained through interviews by the Wall Street Journal of former U.S. government officials, indicates that the NSA has actually gained access to 75 percent of Internet traffic.

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Although the NSA spying regime is justified as a necessary tool for security forces in the wake of September 11, 2001, one of the spying programs reported on tonight, code-named Blarney, seems to have been in existence well before September, 2001.

Did the wake of September 11, 2001 spread back in time, as well as into the future? When will that wake finally pass us by, so that Americans can go back to living in freedom? Has 12 years not been enough of this Homeland nonsense?

http://irregulartimes.com/2013/08/21/new-nsa-spying-programs-revealed.-why-didnt-obama-tell-us/

[Phlem]

1. apparently

for some, even here on DU, no.

I don't know how useful it is. It missed the Boston Marathon but it's had numerous success of which your just to believe them (the NSA).





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[leftstreet]

2. 'Homeland' is embarrassing. Thought Obama would dump it

It was so Bush/Cheney warmonger creepy

A simple name change couldn't have hurt

[intheflow]

4. Simple name change would have been Orwellian propaganda.

So it would have hurt even as it comforted the masses. Better to have it keep its evil name so we remember how evil it is.

[Cooley Hurd]

5. Homeland sounds an awful like like "Fatherland" or "Motherland"

...i.e. nationalistic bullshit.

[HooptieWagon]

7. Thats exactly what it is.

[theHandpuppet]

28. Yep. I hate it.

My partner and I cringe every time we hear that word. It sounds like a fascist catch phrase which, I guess, it really is.

Can it really be that difficult to just say "U.S." or "America"? It disgusts me that Obama continues to use that word.

[Hydra]

8. That was a feature, not a bug

And I find it just as creepy. I don't like references to a 4th reich knowing what I do about operation paperclip.

[Ed Suspicious]

19. Let the Eeeeeeeaagle SOOOAAR!!!!!!!!!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. His coworkers had something to add to that...

http://bootnewt.envy.nu/let-hisegosoar.htm

Let his ego soar,
Our ears were made sore before.
Let Ashcroft boast, he is a bore.
Let his mighty ego soar.

Sore ears healing while he sings.
We can't stand to hear to these things.
Oh, dear God, more songs he brings.
Let his mighty ego soar.

John Ashcroft must be really high.
He must have a lot to prove.
He has tried this sh*t,
Look what he's put us through.

We're bored; he's made our spirits damp.
It's hard; sneak out the door.
If we boo, he'll have us fired,
So be patient a bit more.

John Ashcroft must be high.
You can see it in his eye.
Man, my ears are getting sore.

-- Unknown Federal Employee

[Ed Suspicious]

25. Fantastic!

Maybe even better than the song is the picture. Very patriotic.

[etherealtruth]

3. Its far more than enough for me

[KoKo]

6. It's gone past "Useful to Keep Us Safe" into Paying the MIC Big money to Pretend

to Keep Us Safe.

Where do the Citizens who pay these people have a voice? WHEN do we PULL THE PLUG ON THIS CRAP!

[indepat]

10. This "nonsense" feeds the MIC's coffers and makes a plethora of new government-contractor

billionaires all the while the typical American is probably as likely or more likely to die by an act of violence on the street than before 9-11.

[liberal N proud]

11. "The Fatherland" lasted 12 years

1933 - 1945

[truebluegreen]

12. Way past time for it to go.

[FiveGoodMen]

13. I believe it's meant to be a Thousand-Year-Reich

[malaise]

14. No - follow the money n/t

[Agony]

15. Yes, the earth is our home. Fuck this nationalist nonsense.

is it time for civilization yet?

[wild bird]

16. 12 years is far too long.

It's well past time for us to stand up and tell our elected officials, enough is enough, stop stomping on our rights and restore our freedoms.

[cantbeserious]

17. Kick And Recommend

eom

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Lone dissenter here. De-activate the millions of US troops in

senseless missions and posts abroad. Melt down the missiles and warplanes.

If a fraction of the money spent on the travesty, the criminal acts, of Iraq and Afghanistan had been put into true Homeland Security, and the rest on raising up the poor and homeless giving everyone healthcare, we would still have the love and admiration of most of the world and we would be safer, healthier and happier.

[NoMoreWarNow]

31. doesn't sound like you're alone in your "dissent"-- I think many here

agree wholeheartedly with that.

[NRaleighLiberal]

20. homeland $ecurity. It will never end ...untold millions made from keeping America scared shitless

[KharmaTrain]

29. As Usual...Follow The Money...

...this was the game that enabled the military contractors to get their hands on billions in domestic spending. A "simplified" structure that we saw working "so well" in New Orleans that was, and is still, top loaded with lots of corporate welfare. I've long favored breaking this government monolith apart but I doubt you'd get enough votes to get it out of committee yet through both dysfunctional houses.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

21. There's no way that show has been in 12 years

[lunasun]

22. "When will that wake finally pass us by....."

"so that Americans can go back to living in freedom?"

I wish I could imagine a return.

" Has 12 years not been enough of this Homeland nonsense?"
Oh yes and so random at that!

[Snake Plissken]

23. You people are straight up cruel

If we shitcan the Department of Homeland Corporate Welfare, there are billionaires out there who might have to sell one of their 15 vacation homes. Forcing a billionaire to sell a vacation home he's never even visited is flat out cold.

[Recursion]

26. DHS was a bad idea. Even W didn't want it.

We should really unwind that department.

[NoMoreWarNow]

32. all hail Joe Lieberman!

the bipartisan fucktard we all love to hate who pushed this on us.

[kentuck]

27. Amen to sanity.

It will never be gone in my lifetime, I fear.

[Nay]

34. Indeed, Kentuck, it's over for us old folks. We'll be lucky if they shove us into a poorhouse. nt

[reformist2]

30. We can fight terrorism with normal police detective tactics.

Monitor suspicious individuals. Infiltrate suspicious groups. Get a warrant for everything. This isn't hard. So far I haven't heard of one terrorist plot, planned or carried out, that couldn't have been uncovered using conventional - and constitutional - means.

[NoMoreWarNow]

33. exactly-- the whole massive surveillance system is at minimum

a huge waste, and at worse, a easily manipulated tool to set set up a police state. And right now, it's somewhere in between those possibilities.

[LWolf]

35. Some of us

expected that a Democratic president would get rid of things like Homeland Security and the Patriot Act.