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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:26 PM Aug 2013

Look, the traitor Manning was convicted of Treason and that's just what it is

Oh wait... he wasn't convicted of treason? Huh.

And he was also acquitted on the charge of aiding the enemy? Wow.

So the two biggest things I get off throwing around about the guy are something he wasn't charged with and something else he was acquitted of by a military court?

Well shit.

It's just not a satisfying tantrum without throwing "traitor" in there somewhere.

Since he was convicted of espionage I guess I could call him a spy, but the thing is... I'm kind of on a pro-spying kick right now.

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Look, the traitor Manning was convicted of Treason and that's just what it is (Original Post) cthulu2016 Aug 2013 OP
She. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #1
Agreed, but the narrative voice of the (satirical) OP would be unlikely to get that correct cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #4
+1 NealK Aug 2013 #12
Allow me to be the first to K&R this important OP. - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #2
And YOU needed to start a thread responding to a thread started by ONE person... KittyWampus Aug 2013 #3
Your implicit claim that only one person has ever called Manning a traitor cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #5
Are you familiar with your posting history? morningfog Aug 2013 #6
are you familiar with yours? My posting history goes back a pretty long way. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #7
That almost reads like a Third Way Manny post DJ13 Aug 2013 #8
The real criminals, who were responsible for the deaths of Cleita Aug 2013 #9
Gov't admitted Manning's leak killed absolutely no one Hydra Aug 2013 #10
As a matter of informational courtesy, this link details the disposition of the charges. OmahaBlueDog Aug 2013 #11
Gott argue with a couple. Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #14
Well Done! truebluegreen Aug 2013 #15
She is guilty. DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #13
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. And YOU needed to start a thread responding to a thread started by ONE person...
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:29 PM
Aug 2013

so who is throwing a tantrum? LOL

So typical of DU. One person starts a thread and suddenly that translates to "people".

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. Your implicit claim that only one person has ever called Manning a traitor
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:34 PM
Aug 2013

is obviously false.

Your specific claim that the OP was written in response to one person is not very good as a mind-reading trick.

And the author of a famous OP about what he/she was, in specific, sick and tired of he/she being called, individually, taking me to task for attention seeking or over-specificity is comical.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. are you familiar with yours? My posting history goes back a pretty long way.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:36 PM
Aug 2013

And yes, I am familiar with my posting history. Whatever the heck that means.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. The real criminals, who were responsible for the deaths of
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:20 AM
Aug 2013

millions, are walking around as free millionaires having made their fortunes from those deaths, yet Manning who exposed those criminals and their deeds goes to prison. We all know who the real traitors are and I hope we see justice delivered to them in the future and Manning pardoned.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
10. Gov't admitted Manning's leak killed absolutely no one
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:28 AM
Aug 2013

Despite that, somehow she has "hurt people all over the world" and "betrayed her oath" by exposing Bush Era crimes and their continuance.

I thought she pledged to protect the Constitution? I thought Bushco was the enemy? I can't keep up with all the spinning lately...

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
11. As a matter of informational courtesy, this link details the disposition of the charges.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:30 AM
Aug 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/manning-verdict/

Guilty of the following:

4 counts Article 92 - Failure to obey a lawful order or regulation
1 count Article 134 - Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
6 counts Article 134 - Espionage Act
5 counts Article 134 - Stealing government property
1 count Article 134 - Wanton publication of intelligence on the Internet

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
14. Gott argue with a couple.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:00 AM
Aug 2013

Wanton publication of intelligence on Internet.
Ms. Manning didn't release anything onto the internet, wikileaks did. And if that is about the attack helicopter video, I don't remember a single intelligent choice made by any US person during the entire incident. Unless the Wanton Publication of Gross Dereliction of Duty/Stupidity on the Internet is illegal, I gotta call that one a pass.
Espionage Act violations
Espionage requires three components; a sender, a doer, and a target. A spy is dispatched to gather intelligence on a target. We call spying and not reporting to anyone, being nosey.
If the government was the target of the espionage, and Ms. Manning was the spy. Then the ones who benefited from the released information fits the "sender" slot.
Ms. Manning released secrets, via the internet ( his trained specialty, his form of communication) to the American People. He spied for us. Any information which might have gotten sidetracked to any theoretical enemy is collateral damage. The same as the innocent funeral attendants standing near a drone targeted person. An acceptable cost.

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
13. She is guilty.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:57 AM
Aug 2013

Plenty of crimes in the list too... not just one.

Time to move on, while she spends the rest of her life in jail.

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