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applegrove

(118,689 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:07 PM Feb 2012

Robocall scandal in Canada. CBC News report says that whoever organized the calls giving

out false information to liberal/NDP voters (and at times even calling voters at 1AM pretending to be Liberals), they needed money, organization and access to voters list. And the robocalls came from a robocall business in Alberta that the Conservatives often used. So the Conservative party must have been involved in some way even if it was not sanctioned by those hier up.

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teddy51

(3,491 posts)
1. I would bet dollars to donuts that Harper was fully knowledgeable as to what was
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:11 PM
Feb 2012

going on with this situation. He is a lying POS Conservative, and he knows that the flames are close to his ass.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
2. How could Harper not know.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:49 PM
Feb 2012

The Cons were found guilty just a few months ago for campaign finance fraud, and naturally received only a monetary slap on the wrist. Harper is a brazen, authoritarian micro manager, who's megalomania increases everytime he escapes without consequences. I don't know if Elections Canada can be intimidated, but we know the RCMP are his lapdogs, so don't count on much of an investigation.

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
3. I have a number of relatives that voted for Harper, and I told them going into
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:59 PM
Feb 2012

the election what they could expect to happen if he won a majority. Guess what? All of them now have voters remorse, due to the OAS.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
4. yep. I'm lucky I get a few votes.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:17 PM
Feb 2012

My parents, 2 aunts, and my grandmother (up until she died) always asked me who they should vote for, so I've had them voting NDP or strategically Liberal for years. My brother through, no luck, he thinks he's an aspiring 1%er.

Despite the Con's majority, I can't see them lasting in power until 2015. At the rate they're going there will Literally be pitch forks and torches in the street long before then. How they retain power, short of martial law will be interesting. But then again you know the old joke: "how do you get 100 Canadians out of the pool"....."tell them to get out of the pool"

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
5. I see Provinces revolting big time. It is very likely that BC will vote in an NDP Govt. in 2013
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:52 PM
Feb 2012

and if the Harper Govt. does not change it's ways, I can see a major revolt coming. No idea why the Canadian citizens voted in a majority Conservative Govt., but I do know that many have remorse now.
One guess is that the Liberals voted an Ignatif in as there leader, and that was a major fuck up. He had lived in the US for like 37 years, and basically made that his home. The Liberals need to get their shit together for the next election and find someone that is both Carismatic and electable. (my spelling sucks, I know).

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
6. I think that was a big issue
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:12 AM
Feb 2012

Ignatieff was the opposite of charismatic. Jack was good, but SO many in the middle have NDP hangups. Even my conservative voting family liked Jack, thought he would be wonderful, but said, "I just COULDN'T vote NDP!" like the NDP was the plague. They were even less likely to consider the Liberals. I think Harper had been PM for long enough that people were saying to themsevles, "Well, he hasn't been THAT bad." And yes, there are people out there dumb enough to forget that he was PM with a minority gov't. I got in an argument about it with my con-voting dad last week. He has some delusion that a PM with a minority has all the same power as one with a majority and that Harper was just fine all those years so he figured he'd be fine now. When I told him (my dad) about some of the boners that Harper has pulled lately, he did the equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and screaming "LALALALALA" He's happy in his ignorance. Fortunately, others who voted for Harper are less ignorant and are beginning to regret it. Too bad it's going to be a long 5 years....

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
7. "Too bad it's going to be a long 5 years.... " Yep, that it is and Harper said not to long ago....
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:32 AM
Feb 2012

"In four years you wont recognize Canada, cause it will change big time" Not a quote, but along those lines. Another Right wing Government to add to the UK, France, and others that make up NATO. No wonder why China and Russia are leary of what is going on with the NATO countries.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
8. The company I use to work for recently (8 months) opened a branch in Canada. The company
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:35 AM
Feb 2012

was VERY Republican/Conservative base. I'm not saying it is them but they did distort facts.

Just saying. (sorry rest didn't print.) This seems to be standard for said organizations.

applegrove

(118,689 posts)
9. The conservatives in Canada will send out the welcome wagon to all manner of
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:56 AM
Feb 2012

nasty American republican based organizations. Been going on for 40 years. It will only increase under our current Conservative Harper government.

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