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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:16 AM Aug 2013

Ex-CIA, Barry Eisler, on the detention of David Miranda

http://barryeisler.blogspot.com/2013/08/david-miranda-and-preclusion-of-privacy.html

David Miranda and the Preclusion of Privacy

Of course you wouldn't formally direct the UK authorities to do anything; you'd want to maintain the ability to obscure your involvement without outright lying about it if possible. And of course you might not even be sure the spouse would be carrying anything secret at all, but intercepting secret information wasn't really the purpose of the exercise anyway. The purpose was to demonstrate to journalists that what they thought was a secure secondary means of communication -- a courier, possibly to ferry encrypted thumb drives from one air-gapped computer to another -- can be compromised, and thereby to make the journalists' efforts harder and slower.

Does this sort of "deny and disrupt" campaign sound familiar? It should: you've seen it before, deployed against terror networks. That's because part of the value in targeting the electronic communications of actual terrorists is that the terrorists are forced to use far slower means of plotting. The NSA has learned this lesson well, and is now applying it to journalists. I suppose it's fitting that Miranda was held pursuant to a law that is ostensibly limited to anti-terror efforts. The National Surveillance State understands that what works for one can be usefully directed against the other. In fact, it's not clear the National Surveillance State even recognizes a meaningful difference.

The National Surveillance State doesn't want anyone to be able to communicate without the authorities being able to monitor that communication. Think that's too strong a statement? If so, you're not paying attention. There's a reason the government names its programs Total Information Awareness and Boundless Informant and acknowledges it wants to "collect it all" and build its own "haystack" and has redefined the word "relevant" to mean "everything." The desire to spy on everything totally and boundlessly isn't even new; what's changed is just that it's become more feasible of late. You can argue that the NSA's nomenclature isn't (at least not yet) properly descriptive; you can't argue that it isn't at least aspirational.

To achieve the ability to monitor all human communication, broadly speaking the National Surveillance State must do two things: first, button up the primary means of human communication -- today meaning the Internet, telephone, and snail mail; second, clamp down on backup systems, meaning face-to-face communication, which is, after all, all that's left to the population when everything else has been bugged. Miranda's detention was part of the second prong of attack. So, incidentally, was the destruction of Guardian computers containing some of Snowden's leaks. The authorities knew there were copies, so destroying the information itself wasn't the point of the exercise. The point was to make the Guardian spend time and energy developing suboptimal backup options -- that is, to make journalism harder, slower, and less secure.




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Ex-CIA, Barry Eisler, on the detention of David Miranda (Original Post) Luminous Animal Aug 2013 OP
"If so, you're not paying attention." KNR joeybee12 Aug 2013 #1
I guess Green never hear of FedEx snooper2 Aug 2013 #2
What's with the "Green" crap... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #3
More secure than sending your spouse overseas through various customs snooper2 Aug 2013 #6
What are you, 12? Miranda was detained illegally.. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #7
"If" he was detained illegally that will be sorted out by the courts won't it? snooper2 Aug 2013 #8
Being a needle in the haystack is far greater of a protection than the law will ever be. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #10
K&R pscot Aug 2013 #4
"Fiction novelist Barry Eisler" is more like it. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #5
exactly, consider the source Supersedeas Aug 2013 #9
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
2. I guess Green never hear of FedEx
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:20 AM
Aug 2013

LOL

I'm starting to lean a little like this whole charade was staged...more clicks on webpages!

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. More secure than sending your spouse overseas through various customs
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:27 AM
Aug 2013

Green and the Snowy, it's going to be a movie someday!


Trying to keep it as similar as possible to-

Falcon and the Snowman


 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
8. "If" he was detained illegally that will be sorted out by the courts won't it?
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:48 AM
Aug 2013

Laura could have found a secreative way to ship a package to Green....

Cocaine is shipped via FedEx daily LOL



Your age slur was kind of cute by SOOOOOOOOOOOO overdone. Work on some new material

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Being a needle in the haystack is far greater of a protection than the law will ever be.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:58 AM
Aug 2013

Shit, doesn't the Guardian itself send Greenwald stuff ever?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. "Fiction novelist Barry Eisler" is more like it.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:25 AM
Aug 2013

Eisler was a covert ops guy, so he would have no idea why people ten places higher than him on the food chain do things.

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