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LWolf

(46,179 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:38 AM Aug 2013

I'm having lunch with a Republican friend today.

He's an "old" Republican, like I am an "old" Democrat. It's amazing how much we find to agree about.

I know that will surprise many DUers, who view me as a "purist," etc., etc., etc.; and, at the core of things, I am. I freely admit to being a purist on issues. That's just another way of saying I'm an idealist, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Here at DU, which is supposed to be a community of like-minded people, I don't soften my positions. I freely admit, and always have, that I am not a partisan. I'm about issues, and when my party is wrong on issues, I'm going to call them out on it.

So how can I have a Republican friend? It's not hard.

Believe it or not, underneath all of the political propaganda, we agree on almost everything. He's been appalled by his party in recent years, and the tea party terrifies him. He told me recently that he hasn't changed his registration because it gives him some political cred when he talks to Republicans, especially elected Republicans. And he does. He's quite active. He thinks it's important to reach any sane Republicans that might be left, to encourage them to take back their party. Still, he no longer votes for them.

It's funny; I can tell him all of my harder-left, socialist-leaning opinions on policy, and he isn't shocked, and agrees with much of it. Unlike some Democrats at DU, he is actually open to those ideas.

So, I'm having lunch with him today, and sprinkled in among the personal chat will be conversation about his current actions in our local community, and how I can help. I won't be proselytizing party or politician, and neither will he. I won't be going to lunch armed with all kinds of talking points that parrot the party line, and neither will he.

It's amazing how well things go when we leave political propaganda and party and personality defending out of the mix. It seems so much healthier and productive, at least to me.

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I'm having lunch with a Republican friend today. (Original Post) LWolf Aug 2013 OP
+ 1000. nt clarice Aug 2013 #1
But I thought all Republicans were racist, baby-eating, puppy-kicking homophobes Revanchist Aug 2013 #2
My friend admits freely LWolf Aug 2013 #7
This board does not reflect the real world Egnever Aug 2013 #3
"This board does not reflect the real world" GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #11
My best friend is a Republican. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #4
I married one (although he's not a fan of the GOP as an establishment). Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #5
I know a handful of those Warpy Aug 2013 #6
People, I am finding increasingly, are getting over the divide nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #8
I too have republican friends EC Aug 2013 #9
+10000000000000 woo me with science Aug 2013 #10

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
2. But I thought all Republicans were racist, baby-eating, puppy-kicking homophobes
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:57 AM
Aug 2013

Seriously though there are decent people out there who consider themselves to be Republican. I also think it depends on where you are in the country and the age of person you're talking about, I currently live in Virginia but I'm from Rhode Island and there is a world of difference between the two. A RI Republican (or much of New England) for that matter, would be considered a RINO in other parts of the country, just like a Democratic politician in a red state is sometimes considered a DINO or blue-dog to those in liberal areas.

I have never liked broad-bush stereotypes of an entire segment of the population and choose to judge each person individually based on their actions.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
7. My friend admits freely
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:25 PM
Aug 2013

to being a RINO. He also calls me a DINO for being too far left for the mainstream Democratic Party.

It's seems like we get more done when we can just leave the party bickering behind.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
3. This board does not reflect the real world
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:04 PM
Aug 2013

Politics is a small part of most peoples lives. I know plenty of people that identify as republicans that are very nice people in general. I also know several that identify as democrats that are complete asshats.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
4. My best friend is a Republican.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:07 PM
Aug 2013

So is her husband. I love them both like brother and sister. We're close enough to discuss politics, get in heated debates, and still kiss each other good-bye.

Our friendship goes beyond politics. Besides, I've brainwashed 4 of her 6 kids. She keeps telling me to quit turning her kids into little hippies.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. I married one (although he's not a fan of the GOP as an establishment).
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:09 PM
Aug 2013

Did you know they also like sex? For fun even! I mean, can you imagine?

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
6. I know a handful of those
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:12 PM
Aug 2013

but that's the problem: they're only a handful.

I'm not a fire breathing socialist in real life. They're not foaming teabaggers. We're all sane.

And we're all frightened of the teabaggers. They are well funded out of proportion to their numbers and all that money might get them into power and once in, they'll stay there.

Fortunately, they've forgotten Falwell's admonition to be stealth nuts. They're all right out there in the open. That's the one thing that gives us all a glimmer of hope, that people will be more frightened of them than they are turned off by a mud covered Democrat.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. People, I am finding increasingly, are getting over the divide
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:42 PM
Aug 2013

And at least in Cali the parties are losing registrations.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
10. +10000000000000
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:32 PM
Aug 2013

I recently agreed with someone else here that we need to become the 99 percent, and was immediately met with the stale, accusatory, "So you want bipartisanship"! response from one of the predictable, relentless defenders of corporate policy.

Finally we have bipartisan outrage over the NSA spying, and I hope it will be followed by bipartisan outrage over everything else these corporate scum are doing to this nation. I think people are finally realizing that the demands for rabid partisanship above principle, above values, and above all else have become little more than a cudgel used by corporatists to keep us divided and unable to unite against what they are doing to all of us.

Thank you for this post.
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