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steve2470

(37,461 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 03:20 AM Dec 2011

LA Times: Autism hidden in plain sight (article about adult autism)

When autism researchers arrived at Norristown State Hospital near Philadelphia a few years ago, they found a 63-year-old man who rambled on about Elvis Presley, compulsively rocked in his chair and patted the corridor walls.

Ben Perrick, a resident of the psychiatric institution for most of his life, displayed what the University of Pennsylvania researchers considered classic symptoms of autism. His chart, however, said he was schizophrenic and mentally retarded.

Delving into the file, the researchers learned that as a 10-year-old, Perrick had seen Dr. Leo Kanner, the psychiatrist who discovered autism. In his notes from 1954, Kanner described Perrick as “a child who is self centered, withdrawn, and unable to relate to other people,” and recommended that he be committed.

Later, other doctors relabeled Perrick. The autism diagnosis was forgotten.

link here: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/autism/la-me-autism-day-four-html,0,6403471.htmlstory?track=lat-pick

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LA Times: Autism hidden in plain sight (article about adult autism) (Original Post) steve2470 Dec 2011 OP
link? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #1
sorry ! brain fart ! steve2470 Dec 2011 #2
so ultimately how well does ABA therapy work? It seems the jury is still out on that StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #3
We fix your computers. boppers Dec 2011 #4
Bravo... BeHereNow Dec 2011 #5
+1 mmonk Dec 2011 #6
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 Odin2005 Dec 2011 #8
I take a little umbrage at that asessment. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #12
ASD is a huge range. boppers Dec 2011 #13
What Boppers said. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #15
Interesting, that would explain a lot IDemo Dec 2011 #9
There's a lot of self-diagnosis out there. boppers Dec 2011 #11
It would just help my understanding of myself IDemo Dec 2011 #14
So much for the BS spewed by the Anti-Vax idiots. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #7
Kick for more opinions eom boppers Dec 2011 #10

boppers

(16,588 posts)
4. We fix your computers.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 07:12 AM
Dec 2011

We write your encyclopedias. We engineer your machines. We built the internet, and the atomic bomb.

We also are the ones who love, pure and true, without care for social convention, caste, or class.

Our brains have more neurons in different areas, less in others. Sometimes that makes us different. or "disabled"... but I'm tired of it being labelled a disease. We have always walked with you, advancing our shared humanity by legions more than all of the people who learned how to be "social", "popular" and "persuasive"... but they didn't do shit, because they were spending so much time on being popular.

JFK wanted to go to the moon, ASD folks are the ones who made it happen. NT's took the credit, and for the most part, ASD's didn't even care. We make the world work, and generally don't give a fuck about social credit.

We've been called many names over the years: Nerds, Geeks, Eccentrics, Retards, Obsessives, Autistics, ADD, ADD/HD, Compulsives... but we are the driving engine that makes humans more, and different, than other social primates.

We are the "hidden" 1%. We don't do it for money, though, we do it for love. Love of dinosaurs, or rockets, or stamps, or camera angles, or bacteria, or dishware, or whatever.

So, hug a "retard", thank a "geek", give a moment for those who created civilization, and continue to nourish it by thinking on the edges, and being so far outside the existing norm.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
5. Bravo...
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 07:41 AM
Dec 2011

bhn
Who loves one autistic who knows EVERYTHING about airplanes, and another who carries the
complete history of pirates in his brain, and yet another who knows the birth date of everyone he has ever met.
Autistics ROCK.
And shame on a society that does not value unique intelligence.
I am the aunt of two autistic boys, and I can not find anyone I'd rather
talk to...XO

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
12. I take a little umbrage at that asessment.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:59 AM
Dec 2011

I am neither autistic or a 'do-nothing socialite', I am an intelligent human being who has accomplished a few things in life.

There are a few shades of gray you seemed to miss.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
13. ASD is a huge range.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 06:56 AM
Dec 2011

Part of the OP's point is about those who have accomplished much, without having a popular "disease".

If you already self-identify as an "intelligent human being", by social normative factors, something may be 'wrong' with you. Normal people have, by definition, "average intelligence". It's not something they notice.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
9. Interesting, that would explain a lot
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 12:17 PM
Dec 2011

After reading your post and recognizing the description of myself (I've been an electronics tech most of my life), I did a quick search for "adult autism symptoms". Along with the issues with establishing social connections or maintaining conversations, I found this:

I'm 3 for 4 of the following (and working on the guitar):

About 10% of people with autism have some form of savant skills-special limited gifts such as memorizing lists, calculating calendar dates, drawing, or musical ability.


Maybe a self diagnosis based on a Google search wouldn't exactly gain me a medical degree, but it does make me wonder.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
11. There's a lot of self-diagnosis out there.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:57 AM
Dec 2011

That's because there's *huge* cluster of indicators.

...Many of which are common to growing up in modern society.

So. if you did get diagnosed, one way or another, what *should* that change? Does that make you sick? Well?

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
14. It would just help my understanding of myself
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:23 AM
Dec 2011

I doubt much would change except for having another angle of view on my life, perhaps with a little less self condemnation.

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