These Are The Worst Teachers In New York City

[FarCenter]

After a prolonged legal battle, the New York City Department of Education on Friday released individual performance rankings for 18,000 public school teachers.

The data rates teachers based on their students' gains on the state's math and English exams over five years in fourth- through eighth-grade classrooms, according to the Wall Street Journal's Lisa Fleisher.

The teachers' union had filed a lawsuit to stop the data from being released, but last week a judge sided with the city and ruled that it could be made public.

Of the 12,000 or so teachers ranked, 16 math teachers and eight English teachers received zeroes on the evaluations, according to the New York Daily News. All two dozen had taught for at least three years, the NYDN said.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/these-are-the-worst-teachers-in-new-york-city-2012-2

[limpyhobbler]

1. Wow it would really stink to be a teacher who got a Zero score on this.

How humiliating for something that isn't necessarily in their control. But of course that's the point I guess.

[FarCenter]

2. You don't get a Zero by accident

There are some awful teachers in the NYC system.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. Spend a lot of time in NYC public schools, have you?

I did K-12.

[FarCenter]

4. Never went there myself, but know some teachers socially.

They talk among themselves....

Of course, there are some really awful students as well.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Ah, a friend said so

Carry on.

[trumad]

11. I never ate Sushi

because I heard it sucks from other people.

[MattBaggins]

21. And you are now an expert on Sushi

[Snake Alchemist]

19. I did K-12 there too.

There are some horrible and wonderful teachers in the system.

[baldguy]

7. There's a lot of politics too.

Teachers who rock the boat will get the worst classes & the worst students.

[limpyhobbler]

8. I'm sure there are.

But I'm wondering how precise the teacher scores can really be.

It seems like the tests are trying to measure something that is difficult to measure in the first place (Learning). So they are already a questionable measure. Then on top of that test scores are fed through a math formula to try to adjust for other things that are also hard to measure, like poverty, race, etc. So it seems to me that in all that approximation it's possible some error is introduced into the result.

Since the school district knows there may be some flaws in the measuring system, it is bad enough a teacher will have a Zero or any low score pinned on him or her for life.

But why on top of that also publish the results to humiliate and discredit the teacher publicly?

I clicked through a couple links from the first article.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203918304577243282490252956.html

[MadHound]

5. Lovely, public shaming of teachers,

Based on flawed tests and an even more flawed approach to education.

Gee, how would the rest of you folks like to have your job performance becoming public knowledge, especially when that job performance rating is based on a fatally flawed rubric?

The attack on public education, and teachers, continues unabated.

[progress2k12nbynd]

9. I work in healthcare; we've done this with docs for years...

they have people's lives in their hands.

Lots of docs will tell u that it's unfair because they have sicker patients or something along those lines. But the evidence shows that giving MD's their performance data does increase their patient's outcomes.

[MadHound]

12. Again, would you like to have your job performance reviews known by the public?

As far as docs go, they at least have clear cut, objective criteria to meet. That can't be said of teachers, whose future depends not upon what they do, but how well their students do on a biased, poorly designed set of tests.

[Nye Bevan]

13. Those who pay my salary have always had access to my performance data.

Seems reasonable.

[MadHound]

16. Are you in the private sector?

Since customers actually pay your salary, shouldn't they have access to your job performance reviews. Heck, I think that I should have such access, even though I'm from out of state and am not a direct customer. What do you think?

Sorry, that bullshit that public sector employees deserve less dignity, and are subject to the whims of the population at large, just because they are paid with taxes simply doesn't fly. It is a right wing meme designed to demonize those whose actually work for the public good.

[titaniumsalute]

17. Then in that case we should publicize the performance data of every public servant

Police, Fire, EMS, teachers, DOT employees, Mail workers, etc.?

[Nye Bevan]

18. Agreed. (nt)

[Initech]

6. The LA Times pulled this same shit.

And the guy who ranked last committed suicide. Fuck teacher ranking systems.

[Nye Bevan]

15. Incorrect. He was rated "average" in English,

and "less effective" in math. I suspect he had other issues.

[blaze]

14. I would be curious to hear from the students

Not sure how you could do that...

[Snake Alchemist]

20. I wonder what the teacher who made her kids

Write her pedo boyfriend in jail got.