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UPDATE: Glenn, one of the 16-year-old suspects in the Delbert Belton case, will be tried as an adult.
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UPDATE: The second suspect police are looking for is identified as Kenan Adams-Kinard.
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TWEET FROM ALEX ROZIER: Looking at Demetrius Glenn's criminal history: malicious mischief 3rd,4th degree assault, driving w/o license. Glenn also had an issue involving "riot with a deadly weapon."
BREAKING UPDATE FROM ALEX ROZIER: The 16-year-old arrested in the Delbert Belton case is identified as Demetrius Glenn, he's facing 1st degree murder and robbery.
http://www.khq.com/story/23225525/89-year-old-man-assaulted-at-eagles-ice-arena-has-died
Pictures at the station KHQ website.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Demanding to know why President Obama isn't making a statement as he did in the Martin case and why Al Sharpton isn't marching. They're so clueless and pigheaded its ridiculous.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)And if he did make a statement, he'd called it a senseless act of violence against a man, who could have been his grandfather, since his grandfather was also a white WWII veteran, who fought in Normandy.
wercal
(1,370 posts)You might check that.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)World War II
Stanley Dunham, daughter Ann Dunham, grandchildren Maya and Barack
Dunham enlisted as a private in the U.S. Army on January 18, 1942, at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and served in the European Theatre of World War II with the 1830th Ordnance Supply and Maintenance Company, Aviation. During D-Day, this unit helped to support the 9th Air Force. Stanley and his brother Ralph were deployed to France six weeks after D-Day.[10] Before the Invasion of Normandy, the Dunhams once met accidentally as Stanley went in search of rations at Hotel Russell in London, where his sibling Ralph happened to be staying.[10] Madelyn gave birth to a daughter they named Stanley Ann, who was later known as Ann, at St. Francis Hospital in Wichita on November 29, 1942. During the war, Madelyn Dunham worked on a Boeing B-29 assembly line in Wichita.[11][12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham
wercal
(1,370 posts)That per your own post, he arrived in France six weeks after D-Day, and most certainly did not fight at Normandy, right?
denverbill
(11,489 posts)Therefore, Obama could not claim to have a WWII soldier as a grandfather and my entire post is just wrong.
Good catch. Let's just hope it doesn't turn out Belton wasn't in the first wave at Okinawa. It would just ruin the narrative.
wercal
(1,370 posts)You made a false statement.
I gently corrected you by suggesting you check your info.
Now you're butt hurt.
I was a real fucking soldier and I most certainly did not storm any beaches, so don't even try to put that garbage in my mouth.
And you are welcome for the enlightenment.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)And was in Normandy in 1944.
Delbert Belton could have easily reminded Obama of his grandfather - a white WWII veteran.
That's what you hate. That's why you nitpicked it.
wercal
(1,370 posts)This is not nitpicking. This is a patently false statement.
"since his grandfather was also a white WWII veteran, who fought in Normandy."
Just. Plain. False. No way around it.
I point it out....gently I might add.
And you are so immature, and unable to admit that you were wrong, you lash out and accuse me of 'hate'....still not sure what the heck I'm supposed to hate.
Grow up. When you are wrong, be mature enough to allow yourself to be taught. And quit making baseless accusations that are just as false as your original statement about Obama's grandfather.
I sincerely hope you will swallow your pride, and quit spreading this false rumor, which is easily 'nitpicked' by anyone with half an acorn for a brain on any side of the aisle, and can easily be wielded as an example to cloud the veracity of valid stories about the president's past.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)You can't possibly not believe Obama's grandfather was white, that he was a WWII veteran, or that he was in Normandy 6 weeks after D-day. All of those are established facts.
The only thing you could possibly be quibbling about is the word 'fought'. Well, maybe you have me there. Stanley Dunham slogged through France supporting the Air Corps which was supporting Patton's advance, but he was not in a front-line infantry unit, so he can't claimed to have 'fought' in Normandy. Is that it? And because he was not a front-line soldier, he is unworthy of being mentioned in the same train of thought as Delbert Belton.
Here is a man who volunteered in January, 1942, just weeks after Pearl Harbor. He spent the next 3 years in the service, in the US, England, and France, and was headed to Japan when the war ended. But because he was never on the front lines, and therefore may not ever have witnessed the horrors of combat, my suggestion that Delbert Belton could have been Obama's grandfather is completely irrelevant.
Boy what a winner you are. It's a real treat to have someone as non-nitpicky as you on this board. Clearly you have half an acorn for a brain.
wercal
(1,370 posts)And because he was not a front-line soldier, he is unworthy of being mentioned in the same train of thought as Delbert Belton. No I never said that, and it is extremely offensive that you have to resort to such false accusations, in order to protect your pathetic pride.
Boy what a winner you are. It's a real treat to have someone as non-nitpicky as you on this board. Clearly you have half an acorn for a brain. I don't think you quite got the characterization or what it implied...one of us may have one of those acorns where then entire insides are rotted to nothing and hollow.
Look, I pointed out a false statement...again gently. And you still aren't mature enough to learn from the mistake and move on...not without lashing out at your teacher. Your sarcastic characterization of me as a 'winner' says it all - you have no interest in learning, only one upping me.....I used to be that way, but then I turned 11 one day.
Good grief. Grow up.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)I made a post stating Obama could have said Belton reminded him of his grandfather because his grandfather was a white WWII vet who fought in Normandy. You found my entire post to be wrong because I said 'fought', when in fact, his grandfather was a mere soldier who 'served'.
I think anyone who uses the phrase 'butt hurt' in a reply has some serious growing up to do. One of us does have one of those acorns where 'then[sic] entire insides are rotted to nothing and hollow'. Fortunately, it isn't me.
nitpicking
Oh, and by the way, you made a typo in that sentence, which proves you are stupid and negates anything else you said in the post. And don't complain about it you immature, butt hurt crybaby
/nitpicking
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The Normandy campaign lasted longer than the D-Day invasion itself by quite a bit.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)Patton didn't even arrive in Normandy until mid-late July, which is, coincidentally, 6+ weeks after D-Day.
But of course, Patton didn't 'fight' in Normandy either. He just served, like Obama's grandfather.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)damage and deaths. D-day was only the start of The Liberation of France and Europe.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/battle_normandy.htm
spin
(17,493 posts)occurred at a local level.
Soon everybody wants him to comment on a similar crime that occurred in their state.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)And he has yet to be asked to opine on this particular case. Why would he hurry with a statement on something like this when there is so much going on in the world that is more important?
clarice
(5,504 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,181 posts)This case, and the case of Christopher Lane, have received national attention, but only because of their sheer brutality and senselessness.
There's not more that the President can say about this case other than it was senseless, brutal and tragic.
spin
(17,493 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)so he *had* to say something (and I appreciate that he did)...
rollin74
(1,973 posts)I'm glad that he will be tried as an adult. If convicted, he should never be released from prison
pintobean
(18,101 posts)They used those great big heavy flashlights, Bobbie Belton said. The doctors said he was bleeding from all parts of his face.
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2013/08/23/daughter-in-law-world-war-ii-vet-beaten-to-death-with-big-heavy-flashlights/
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Good.
wild bird
(421 posts)Now, let's let the Criminal Justice System do it's job before we pronounce these 2 young men guilty.
I mean, they are innocent until proven guilty under our justice system, although in real life, it doesn't always work that way.
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BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Talking about a "lost generation" of young men and women who have been ignored. I saw it live, sorry I'm not that good of a reporter. Hopefully they will put it up on their website.
http://www.khq.com/story/23225525/suspectarrestedinvetbeating
wild bird
(421 posts)BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)But a robbery that went horribly wrong. They saw the victim as an easy target, but he fought back when they were trying to steal his wallet. Forgot to add that to the other posting.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)in terms of a generation, his comment calls to mind:
Chris Lane, Timothy McNerney, Eve Carson, and Lauren Burk -- college kids who were all murdered and died way too young, with so much ahead of them -- all lost.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Months ago
doc03
(35,332 posts)know where all the outrage is. Could it be that they are arresting the murders this time?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I can't help thinking how few WWII veterans are left, and when they go, a piece of history is lost.