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CBS news reporting a probable VP pick for Romney - it's (Original Post) flamingdem Feb 2012 OP
Some combo! elleng Feb 2012 #1
Desperation make for strange bedfellows! flamingdem Feb 2012 #3
Unlikely, probably Rand Paul will be put on a 'short list' grantcart Feb 2012 #2
I wonder why the media is floating this flamingdem Feb 2012 #4
Do you really have to ask? Warpy Feb 2012 #5
How does it help Paul flamingdem Feb 2012 #6
It keeps his name out there. Lasher Feb 2012 #11
I think speculation began when Paul appeared to tag 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #17
I wonder if things will turn tag team. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #7
Sometimes I worry the Republicans will win flamingdem Feb 2012 #8
I'm like Anne Frank. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #10
Anne Frank died in a concentration camp. dogknob Feb 2012 #13
I'll probably die horribly too. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #14
I hope you are right flamingdem Feb 2012 #18
About me believing people are good, or dying a horrible death? napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #25
Oh - it just gets worse for the GOP applegrove Feb 2012 #9
Not Ron Paul DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #12
Bingo!! Paka Feb 2012 #15
+1 Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #16
Ron Paul just denied that flamingdem Feb 2012 #19
You mean the guy who would repeal the 1964 Civil Rights Act? aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2012 #24
I thought they said RuPaul NNN0LHI Feb 2012 #20
Let's hope we get to see Romney flamingdem Feb 2012 #21
Does anyone really believe this will happen? mick063 Feb 2012 #22
I doubt it very much, but these days... flamingdem Feb 2012 #23
There is not even a .0000000000000000000000001% of that happening Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #26
That would include republicans these days flamingdem Feb 2012 #27

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
2. Unlikely, probably Rand Paul will be put on a 'short list'
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:25 AM
Feb 2012

The Vice President must be from a state that will bring electoral votes.

Probably a Governor.

McDonnell from Virginia is an example. Daniels from Indiana is another.

Ron Paul would cause 'Security Republicans' to desert en masse.

I would guess that even John McCain would publicly denounce this choice.

If Romney thinks that he can appoint anyone he wants then he doesn't understand how it works.

McCain was determined to appoint Senator Lieberman but was told that the entire party would revolt if he tried.

The same would happen with a Paul nomination.

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
5. Do you really have to ask?
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:29 AM
Feb 2012

Have you never met any Paulbots?

I'm sure the story has been floated by many of them.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
11. It keeps his name out there.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:02 AM
Feb 2012

That seems to be a major goal of lots of Paulbots.

Edit: But I don't know if that really helps him if people are most people are just going to think he's a kook.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
7. I wonder if things will turn tag team.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:32 AM
Feb 2012

You have Paul Romney, vs Santorum Gingrich.

Man, "Santorum Gingrich". listen to the sound of that. Not the most musical combo ever. But on one hand you have the evangelical Santorum with the smart devil on his shoulder in Gingrich, on the other you have the slippery image guy with the image unconcerned principles guy on his shoulder. That would make for some interesting politics.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
8. Sometimes I worry the Republicans will win
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:35 AM
Feb 2012

because their kalidoscopic clown car-isms have a high entertainment factor.

Americans can be perverse that way.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
10. I'm like Anne Frank.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:00 AM
Feb 2012

In that I believe people are ultimately good. When I look at Mom and Pop Republicans, I see people fighting to preserve the concept of meritocracy. They often don't see that the pay scales of the 1% through the quantitative lens I do, which reveals that merit has fuck-nothing to do with it (its a shakedown), but that doesn't diminish the purity of their wishes. So when I see these high entertainment races distracting people, I don't think of it as an expression of the moral failings of people, its a matter of having a hard time tracking on the numbers, seeing the truth.

The morally encouraging part, the good part, is that people are basically good and trying to do the right thing. The discouraging part is that they don't always see it, and that's the challenge that falls strait into the arms of those of us who do see the truth.
Peace

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
13. Anne Frank died in a concentration camp.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 05:21 AM
Feb 2012

While the Dog & Pony show continues, voter-suppression is law in 9 states and pending in 10 more.

The Dems stand a very real chance of (shhh... ) quietly losing the Senate and House.

Then what?

Even people who are doing serious evil believe they are doing good.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
14. I'll probably die horribly too.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 05:26 AM
Feb 2012

But that doesn't change my sense of conviction that we should accept the fact that people want to do good and consider the problem to be one of being informed.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
18. I hope you are right
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:51 PM
Feb 2012

Fox is a huge part of the problem. People believe "the news". Especially when given no other option as is the case throughout much of the center of the country (they tell me).

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
25. About me believing people are good, or dying a horrible death?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:18 AM
Feb 2012

Kidding.

No, its true. There's a really long history of people doing horrible things when somebody decides to shut down rational debate and take control of the media. That was priority one for the Nazis. There was just a great thread on the greatest list showing Fox editing a debate to make it appear the crowd was cheering Jon Bolton's call for war, when the reality is the grassroots right are sick of the government spending on these fake wars, just like everybody else. Their principles are on the line like the rest of us.

I do believe it, I do believe people are good. Politics demonizes, but the truth is people aren't demons. For instance, the pro life right wanted women to see the potential baby, thus the ultrasound law. But the real interpretation lead to the vaginally invasive ultrasound...I promise they didn't intend or expect that, but their apparent call for forced government vaginal probes made for good political bashing of them, so the left ran with it, and won that one. But did the right really intend for government mandated forced violation of women's vaginas? doubtful. Just as women who have abortions have no intent to murder unborn anything, but it makes for good demonization politics in the churches to claim that satan loving women are killing their babies. Politics demonizes but people are really just trying to do the right thing with what they know. Once you see this, the problem is one of spreading enlightenment, spreading the kind of truth that doesn't come from being oft repeated, but rather has the quality of not going away when people stop believing in it. Real truth.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
19. Ron Paul just denied that
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:52 PM
Feb 2012

yesterday in an interview but I noticed he did not deny his own potential involvement.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
21. Let's hope we get to see Romney
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:06 PM
Feb 2012

in heels. He wouldn't want his running mate to be taller than him.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
22. Does anyone really believe this will happen?
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:09 PM
Feb 2012

I'm not joking and it bears repeating.

Does anyone really believe that Romney will pick Ron Paul as a running mate?

Please post if you do.

I'm tempted to keep tally for credibility purposes.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
23. I doubt it very much, but these days...
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:28 PM
Feb 2012

anything goes with desperate republicans.

My point in posting was that the media are floating this, and it made me wonder why.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
26. There is not even a .0000000000000000000000001% of that happening
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:25 AM
Feb 2012

Ron Paul breaks completely from established consensus - even bipartisan consensus on monetary policy and certainly foreign policy. There is absolutely no possibility whatsoever of Ron Paul being even remotely considered for the Vice Presidential positions except in exotic imaginations of people who have no idea whatsoever of how the world works.

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