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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:03 AM Feb 2012

Life, With Dementia: Convicted Killers Caring For Other Inmates

SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. — Secel Montgomery Sr. stabbed a woman in the stomach, chest and throat so fiercely that he lost count of the wounds he inflicted. In the nearly 25 years he has been serving a life sentence, he has gotten into fights, threatened a prison official and been caught with marijuana.

Despite that, he has recently been entrusted with an extraordinary responsibility. He and other convicted killers at the California Men’s Colony help care for prisoners with Alzheimer’s disease and other types of dementia, assisting ailing inmates with the most intimate tasks: showering, shaving, applying deodorant, even changing adult diapers.
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Dementia in prison is an underreported but fast-growing phenomenon, one that many prisons are desperately unprepared to handle. It is an unforeseen consequence of get-tough-on-crime policies — long sentences that have created a large population of aging prisoners. About 10 percent of the 1.6 million inmates in America’s prisons are serving life sentences; another 11 percent are serving over 20 years.
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With many prisons already overcrowded and understaffed, inmates with dementia present an especially difficult challenge. They are expensive — medical costs for older inmates range from three to nine times as much as those for younger inmates. They must be protected from predatory prisoners. And because dementia makes them paranoid or confused, feelings exacerbated by the confines of prison, some attack staff members or other inmates, or unwittingly provoke fights by wandering into someone else’s cell.
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(see link in post #2)

A long, but fascinating read.
It does some good both for the afflicted and for the caregivers. Those who were convicted of heinous crimes may regain some humanity.

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Life, With Dementia: Convicted Killers Caring For Other Inmates (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Feb 2012 OP
This thread interests me - can I read more? New Yawker Feb 2012 #1
I found this link: Cerridwen Feb 2012 #2
Thanks! nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2012 #3
Yah, sure, yabetcha! :) n/t Cerridwen Feb 2012 #6
NY Times article -> pinto Feb 2012 #5
Well I'm impressed dballance Feb 2012 #4
A serious question Bragi Feb 2012 #7
A compassionate society vim876 Feb 2012 #8
Many have no where to go. Some have no family outside, or they are unable to provide care; pinto Feb 2012 #12
If we are going to have Corporate Prisons these are the clients for them. Send them all Vincardog Feb 2012 #9
You really want gas chambers? Let corporations do this work unsupervised. saras Feb 2012 #10
IF they did that they would no longer get the per diem for that prisoner. Vincardog Feb 2012 #11
Is there no form of compassionate release? Under US Law nt. MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #13
Yes, in CA. (State prison systems generally operate under state, not federal, law.) pinto Feb 2012 #14
 

New Yawker

(62 posts)
1. This thread interests me - can I read more?
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:11 AM
Feb 2012

The link you sent me was to a bing with alzheimer's info.

Can you give me the article?

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
4. Well I'm impressed
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:14 AM
Feb 2012

Inmates who have no chance of getting out are doing this.

Even if they are doing it to get a better cell, better food, or more daylight I'm okay with that. We all work to get paid. They are just getting paid in something other than money. It's still hard work.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
7. A serious question
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:31 AM
Feb 2012

What benefit is there to society in keeping a person with a dementia-producing disease locked up in a prison? Would a compassionate society not move them to where they can be properly looked after

pinto

(106,886 posts)
12. Many have no where to go. Some have no family outside, or they are unable to provide care;
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:51 PM
Feb 2012

availability of assisted care facilities are limited, and expensive. While "compassionate release" paroles for older inmates are on the increase in CA, those with severe medical disabilities simply may not make it on the outside.

Inmates with "good" track records have long been working as orderlies at CMC under the supervision of professional medical staff. And, as an aside, the medical staff truly works to provide the best possible care they can within the system. It's often a difficult balance they work to maintain - seeing the patient as a patient, not the criminal record, and seeing their professional role as different from custody's role. Most med staff are not directly Department of Corrections employees, they are independent sub-contractors. It's a tough balance to maintain. I admire those that can pull it off and provide decent medical care day-in-day out.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
9. If we are going to have Corporate Prisons these are the clients for them. Send them all
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:46 PM
Feb 2012

to the GOP's private prison friends. You know the ones that argue against legalizing MM and want the horrid Mandatory Minimum
sentences in the first place.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
10. You really want gas chambers? Let corporations do this work unsupervised.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:37 PM
Feb 2012

Everyone will peacefully die in their sleep the day the money runs out. No problem.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
14. Yes, in CA. (State prison systems generally operate under state, not federal, law.)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:28 PM
Feb 2012

In CA, there has to be some support system in the community identified before compassionate release is granted. Family, halfway program, medical care, etc.

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