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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe End of the Arab Spring.
It's hard to know where to mark this bitter end. Chemical attacks on a large scale in Syria? The military coup and suspension of all rights in Egypt? Violent death and unrest in Libya, Lebanon, Tunisia and Yemen?
But the movement that began with such hope in Tunisia and saw such moments as the original protests in Tahir Square, is dead.
The Middle East stands at a dangerous crossroads with the potential for a wider war.
That's one reason why the U.S. should not intervene in Syria.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)who were the only ones to just get on a do it themselves devoid of outside help. No harping, whinging, moaning , griping - they just did it.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Firstly the term "Arab Spring" is insulting on its face, recasting a social movement in horticultural terms, as though Arabs don't have agency. And it absolutely didn't begin and end in Tunisia.
The Egyptian people only recently overthrew the Muslim brotherhood. Because it did not produce the results some bourgeois Westerners like does not mean these are not social revolutions.
Every single revolution in history has been followed by conservative reaction and counter revolution. That was true of the French Revolution, Russian, Mexican, Cuban, etc. . . It is also true of the Arab revolutions.
cali
(114,904 posts)It's a reference to the revolutions of 1848 and the Prague Spring of 1968.
I agree that it didn't begin and end in Tunisia.
But yes, it's over. There will be other revolutions in the same spirit, but this particular wave is over.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)By 1849, counter-revolutionary forces were in control. The main result was an increased nationalism in Europe.
By autumn 1968, Warsaw Pact forces were back in control, and liberals were purged from government before the end of 1969.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)When did that happen?
leveymg
(36,418 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)If that has happened, I had not heard about it.
cali
(114,904 posts)<snip>
The government installed by Gen. Abdul-Fattah el-Sisi has renewed the Mubarak-era state of emergency removing all rights to due process or protections against police abuse. And police officials have pronounced themselves vindicated. They say the new governments claim that it is battling Islamist violence corroborates what they have been saying all along: that it was Islamists, not the police, who killed protesters before Mr. Mubaraks ouster.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/25/world/middleeast/egypt-widens-crackdown-and-meaning-of-islamist.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0