Kathleen Parker accuses the President of complicity in the murder of Christopher Lane.

[11 Bravo]

There you go, folks. And that's from the "moderate" side of the right-wing pundit scale. In Sunday's Washington Post, in a column entitled "It's not all about race", Parker immediately went racial by posing the question, "Did the President's identification with Trayvon Martin nourish the killing passions of these youths?" Un-fucking-believable! Damn, but I despise these people!

[malaise]

1. Trayvon Martin was returning to his father's place

in a middle class neighborhood when he was stalked and murdered by a racist scumbag.
If the President identifying with the murdered kid made people have a look at racism in America - so be fugging it.

Parker should read some history and see who encouraged the lynching and murder of which race for how many centuries and who continues to promote institutional racism day in day out - then she should look in her fucking mirror.

[hfojvt]

11. that is one interpretation of events

What is the interpretation of Christopher Lane's death?

Here is my own paranoia. After the Zimmerman acquital, I started driving to work. Normally I ride my bicycle the short distance in this mixed-race city. But since it seemed like some people were trying to stir up HATE over Trayvon's death/Zimmerman's acquital, it seemed prudent to avoid making myself vulnerable at night.

It seems like a very short step to me to go from hatred of Zimmerman to hatred of almost all white people. To think something like "Crackers think they can kill us with impunity and get away with it, well two can play that game you racist motherfu$%ers." Especially if one is young, bored, angry and excitable as young people in this society often are. It is a very short step from hatred to violence.

We have always said that about Limbaugh and O'Reilly that there are consequences to stirring up hatred, and it seems to me that stirring up hatred was what was done in the Trayvon case.

[malaise]

13. Three fugging losers - two black, one white

killed Lane and were arrested and charged. Zimmerman walked free for 45 effin' days.
Trayvon Martin became a symbol for what is wrong with justice in America. He was slaughtered on cold blood and the perpetrator was not charged. That is why there was an uproar.

[erpowers]

16. Who Stirred Up Hatred

Can you name one person in a public role who stirred up hatred before, during, or after the Trayvon Martin trial? President Obama did not tell or encourage anyone to hate Zimmerman or any other white person.

[hfojvt]

22. there are many

Geraldo Rivera who said "That nutty neighborhood watch guy wouldn't have responded in that violent and aggressive way." or 23 Mar 2012

Then there was NBCNews on 27 Mar 2012. They edited the tape of the 911 call to make it say "He looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."

In mid march, there were people saying that Zimmerman had said the phrase "fu$%ing coons"

As Jason Whemple posted on 7 Mar 2013 wrote, NBC noted that the Christian Science Monitor wrote that "For many across the nation, the shooting ... looks like a racially motivated murder."

Except they miss the point that many people were pretty much being told, even by Obama, that it straight up WAS a racially motivated murder. So no wonder it looked that way.

Nobody needs to be told to hate Zimmerman. All they need to be told is that Zimmerman is a racist murderer, and the hatred will follow.

[erpowers]

28. When Did President Obama Say the Killing Was Racially Motivated?

First did President Obama say the killing was racially motivated? I do not recall any time when President Obama said the killing was racially motivated. I hope you are not suggesting that since President Obama said "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin" that he was saying the shooting was racially motivated.

Second you fail to point out that Geraldo Rivera was far more critical of Trayvon Martin and other young people especially black youth. On a number of occasions Rivera claimed that Martin's hoodie made him a target and youth, especially black youth should not walk around with hoodies.

Yes, someone at NBC edited the 911 tape wrong. However, that was out only a short time before it was pointed out that the taped had been edited wrong. After that happened NBC admitted their mistake, apologized, and began playing the version that showed the 911 operator asking Zimmerman for the person's race.

Yes people were saying there was a chance that Zimmerman said the words F-ing coons. However, it was very well known that most people were not sure what Zimmerman said.

[erpowers]

32. That Is Just Silly

It is just ridiculous that you would try to link the Christopher Lane case to the outcome of the George Zimmerman case and its aftermath. It is clear the two are not connected. The young men (two black and one white) arrested for the killing of Christopher Lane said they committed the crime because they were "bored". If the black kids involved in this crime hated white people so much why were they in a vehicle with a white kid. Also, if the killing was about race why did the kids not say that instead of saying they were "bored".

President Obama saying "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon" and "Trayvon could have been me" are not the cornerstone of any kind of hatred. Before the trial President Obama did not encourage anyone to take the law into their own hands. He also did not encourage hatred toward anyone. After the trial President Obama called for calm and stated that anyone who chose to act in a violent manner did not represent Trayvon Martin supporters.

Most people pushed the narrative that an unarmed black teenager was killed by George Zimmerman. Whether or not the 911 operator told Zimmerman not to get out of the vehicle; his training and the rules of neighbor watch groups told him to stay in his vehicle. If Zimmerman had stayed in his car most likely the killing would never have occurred.

Clearly Geraldo Rivera was not trying to stir up hatred against George Zimmerman in that Rivera works for FOX News. FOX News was a major supporter of George Zimmerman. Also, I doubt many Zimmerman opponents watched FOX news before, during, or after the George Zimmerman case. In addition, Rivera was one of the main pushers of the idea that the hoodie equals thug culture.

The piece you listed that supposedly came from The Nation did not stir up hated. There is a big difference between stirring up hatred and discussing one's feelings about the verdict in a case. In the statement you posted no one is encouraged to go out and get revenge for the verdict. One person explains they are disappointed in the case.

[geek tragedy]

35. So, in other words you agree that Obama is responsible for Lane's death.

Unsurprising, given your past commentary on the president, which now must be taken in a different light.

[Bandit]

33. Are you suggesting that Obama is stirring up hatred because he identified with Travon?

That was Parker's point and I get the impression you feel the same way.

[Cha]

23. thanks malaise. :(

[PowerToThePeople]

2. linky

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kathleen-parker-obamas-race-remarks-exacerbate-tensions/2013/08/23/7491bb2e-0c1f-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

Obama’s race remarks exacerbate tensions
By Kathleen Parker, E-mail the writer

If I had a son, he would look like Christopher Lane, the 22-year-old Australian baseball player shot dead while jogging in Oklahoma.

[lastlib]

14. If she had a son, it would look more like this:

or this:




or this:

[treestar]

3. That's just insane

It would make more sense to ask if Zimmerman's acquittal emboldened any white shooter in any case where a white person shoots a black person in alleged self defense.

In this case, President Obama's statements on Trayvon are just irrelevant.

[malaise]

4. Ask her who encouraged the RW racist who planted the bomb

on the MLK parade route a few years ago.

[Cha]

24. Excellent point, treestar.. :(

[blogslut]

5. That's one hell of a leap, Kathleen.

Did it hurt terribly when you went splat?

[Warpy]

6. I guess Parker didn't look too closely at that third mug shot

if she saw it at all. I know Pox only showed the two who were black, leaving off the poor misguided white boy from such a nice family they must have talked into doing such a terrible thing.

For the newer members who don't know me,

[Whisp]

7. there is and will be an absense of a certain faction here. n/t

[Blue_Tires]

34. +1

[lastlib]

8. I use Kathleen Parker's column to sop up dog-piss.......

When my rather incontinent old collie has an "accident" in our basement, KP's column comes in rather handy for absorbing it. Otherwise, I have no use for anything she says or writes.

This one, however, may be construed as an insult to dog-piss.....and smells worse.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. Hell, Tom Coburn's now a "moderate"

I was listening to Chris Matthews the other day and he referred to Coburn as a "moderate" compared to the rest of the Republican Party. I almost lost consciousness - I remember when Coburn was considered an extremist nut. But Matthew's is right, by today's standards, he's a moderate.

This is where 20+ years of triangulation and appeasement have brought us.

God help us.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

12. Coburn's considered a moderate because sometimes he'll shut up and listen before spouting RW BS.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. A DUer the other day called Coburn a liberal 'and remember, he's the liberal Senator from OK'

Utter bullshit but needed by the moderate bipartisanship crowd because their moderate bipartisan buddies are a bunch of right wing crazies. Coburn ran for office shouting about 'lesbians in the bathrooms' and is a raving loon, a right winger whom Obama has praised endlessly because of 'moderate bipartisanship'.

[geek tragedy]

36. No one called Coburn a liberal.

Saying Tom Coburn is the liberal Senator from Oklahoma is like saying Butthead was the smart one on Beavis and Butthead.

[OldEurope]

10. Maybe...

..she is right on something (I don't know who she is):
In the USA you get killed. Randomly. Be a tourist, be a child, be an elderly or whatsoever. You always and everywhere are in danger to get shot.

[Bluenorthwest]

18. She's a right wing Democrat hating hack.

nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

20. "Always" and "everywhere" are the two MOST inclusive words in the english dictionary.

They would even cover the little space underneath the lime-green can of spray paint in my garage at 0327.

Do you think anyone standing in that spot, minding their own business, is in danger of getting shot on, say, a Tuesday morning?

Some people say the stupidest fucking things, I swear.

[OldEurope]

37. Tell this to that Australian baseball player. nft.

[struggle4progress]

15. Parker is a "Mom next door" face for the rightwing

Her PoV isn't really much different than that of rightwing wackos like Ann Coulter, except that Parker puts more effort into airbrushing her text, to create a more centrist and appealing first impression

Some DUers will remember her suggestion (put in the mouth of a supposed military friend) that various Democratic candidates should be lined up and shot. In that particular case, Parker had second thoughts and sent out a new version of the column before many newspapers published the original version: in the new version, her military friend merely said various Democratic candidates should be slapped in the face

What we might learn from that incident is that Parker's first drafts are foamingly rabid rightwing shizz, which she then edits to convey a daintier "Mom next door" chat-style, in hopes of disguising the underlying ugliness of her political perspectives

[Cha]

25. thanks for that, struggle

[Tommy_Carcetti]

19. Seriously, what could he say, other than it was a senseless tragic murder?

The President said that Trayvon Martin could have been him 30 years ago and that if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon, because it was true.

What's he going to say? "Christopher Lane was me 25 years ago, because I was actually a 20 year old Australian exchange student playing baseball at one point in my life"?

The Trayvon Martin murder was an extraordinary case. It wasn't notable because George Zimmerman was white and Trayvon Martin was black. It was notable because it raised issues about racial profiling and about laws written by gun lobbyists that appeared to subvert the normal judicial process.

And the right hated that the Trayvon Martin case was in the headlines, because they didn't want to admit that there are still discussions to be had about race in 2013 and they didn't want to admit that a legal gun owner with a CCW could act recklessly or maliciously with his legally owned gun.

Make no mistake about it. The right couldn't give two shits about what happened to Christopher Lane. They just want to throw around his case to cheapen the discussion that surrounded the Zimmerman murder case. And because they think the public is so stupid that they'll automatically view all cases where someone of one race kills someone of another race as exactly the same.

[nyquil_man]

21. I thought President Obama was too busy defending rodeo clowns (as per Peggy Noonan's instructions)

to "nourish the killing passions of these youths."

[Cha]

26. Yeah, "let's come up with any stupid shit my twisted mind

can come up with. "

Says everything about rwasshole, kp.. and nothing about President Obama.

[bravenak]

27. There must be a sale on vodka.

She'll be hung over today and not remember this.

[bemildred]

29. Kathleen Parker loved Bush and the Iraq war. Still does, I imagine. nt

[winter is coming]

30. WTF? n/t

[KamaAina]

38. Probably not the white one.

You know, the one Faux keeps editing out.