Tough Guy Pulls Gun on Elementary School Students After They Make Fun of His Confederate Flag

[madinmaryland]

Police in Virginia Beach arrested an 18-year-old man yesterday and charged him with two misdemeanor counts of brandishing a firearm after he allegedly pointed his gun at elementary school students.

Joshua P. Dalton was in a blue pickup truck at the time of the incident, and was reportedly stopped behind a Pembroke Elementary school bus that was unloading children. Two students returned to the bus and informed the driver that Dalton had pulled a gun out and was aiming it at the bus.

The bus driver brought the children back to the school and alerted the authorities.

According to police, Dalton was upset about disparaging remarks the students made concerning a Confederate flag on his truck.

He was booked into jail and later released on bond. A female passenger in Dalton's truck was not arrested.

http://gawker.com/5952285/tough-guy-pulls-gun-on-elementary-school-students-after-they-make-fun-of-his-confederate-flag

Douchebag

[reflection]

1. Idiot.

He knows you're supposed to fly that flag from a RED truck like 99% of the mouthbreathers around here.

[PowerToThePeople]

2. Probably a Douchebagger n/t

[Rain Mcloud]

29. P2theP,I believe they prefer to be called D-Bagger's

Since in the FreedumWorkz manifesto,they declare D-bagging to be their favorite past time activity.
Ooh vinegary!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

3. Now, if the kids had only been packing....... nt

[G_j]

13. my thought also nt

[joeybee12]

4. I thought you were posting from The Onion again...

Scary...

[petronius]

5. Moral of the story: don't make fun of a man's flag

OK, just kidding, that's probably not the moral...


What an asshole, and it's unfortunate that these are only misdemeanor charges. Seems like the sort of behavior that ought to fall in the "you lose your firearm access for a very long time" category...

[arcane1]

12. Well, he gets an ignominous thrashing from internet commenters, and a published mug shot

And his name will now and forever come up in an internet search.

Eternal mocking may now commence!

[Cryptoad]

49. NRA

to buy him some more Guns?.........

[lpbk2713]

6. Just one of many reasons why this is a real bad idea ...

Navy SEALS are stationed nearby and it just could have been this clown's bad luck to have pulled this stunt in the presence of one. If a SEAL's kid was on the bus he could have that gun inserted in a very painful place.

[williesgirl]

20. We can only wish one were nearby. I don't think it would have mattered if the Seal had NO kids!

[Wait Wut]

7. That flag is a cover.

Look at his head. It's obvious that he's an alien.

Lock the alien fucker up. Some of those kids will have nightmares for a very long time.

[Cryptoad]

51. Yep , it would be a real shame

if we has some reasonable gun control so idiots like this couldn't own firearms!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

8. One more to bookmark in the Gun_Nuts folder...

I mean Responsible_Gun_Owner folder.

[giftedgirl77]

9. I have calvin urinating on a confederate flag

on the back of my caruck & no big bad sons of the confederacy start shit with me.

Whatta tool...

[mikeysnot]

10. gun nutz

Yes, allowing cowards and idiots to carry guns is a good idea and will keep us safe.....

loser.

[madinmaryland]

18. Welcome to DU!!

[Cooley Hurd]

22. He sure could!

...and the kids could run away. Not so easy outrunning a bullet.

Welcome to DU!

[arcane1]

23. Pointing a knife or bat at a school bus?

[emsimon33]

25. But wasn't the initial problem that the kids made fun of the guy with the gun--

not the school bus? The guy pointed the gun at the kids. Personally, although I am for gun control--very tight gun control (see the UK)--a bat or a knife would ahve also scared the kids but, as someone pointed out, they would not be able to outrun a bullet.

[mikeysnot]

67. removed...

I missed it. darn.

No, not really.

[arcane1]

11. It's pretty bad when you need gun-courage to deal with little kids.

This guy has issues

[Bandit]

15. As if flying a Confederate Flag wasn't enough to let you know he has issues.

I bet he thinks he is a good "American Patriot" as well.

[arcane1]

24. Indeed. He was pretty much advertising his issues

I wonder if he had truck-nuts too?

[Ohio Joe]

14. Yet another responsible gun owner... Who is not

Fuckin gun nuts.

[sakabatou]

16. Seriously, is he that much of a tightwad?

[Revanchist]

19. The guy was an idiot, but this happened last year. N/T

[CanonRay]

26. How about felony menacing

and take his damn guns away.

[arely staircase]

27. that is a misdemeanor?

Waving guns at school kids is a misdemeanor?

[NYC_SKP]

28. Story is 2012. Carried on three obscure blogs this week. I wonder why.

I guess when there isn't a shocking news story in a given week somebody drags up one from the past and presents it as "news".

The story says "yesterday". It wasn't yesterday.

I know you didn't realize it was old news.

I think you've been had, madinmaryland.

[madinmaryland]

31. Old news, sure, but apparently it did happen...

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/10/va-beach-students-say-man-aimed-gun-them

Nothing wrong with dragging up something from the past that did happen, since I could not recall it being discussed here, before.

[NYC_SKP]

32. Your excerpt says it happened "yesterday".

You could blame the source, but the source didn't post it on DU.

You've got to know that many or most readers will think it happened yesterday.

Not the end of the world, it's just not very accurate.

Like I said, I believe you only just came across it and didn't realize, it is on a few sites and facebook, after all.

[Robb]

34. No, no, old news. Nothing to talk about here!

[NYC_SKP]

36. An OP says that something happened yesterday, when in fact it happened last year.

I expect that from gun control freaks but not from most honest DUers.

It makes DU suck.

Now back to work...

[Robb]

38. Now the OP is making DU suck?

You need a more recent example of someone with a gun being a jackass in order to justify talking about it?

Here, this one's even a concealed permit holder (not mentioned that he held a permit, but since it's PA and there were no gun charges, he had to have one). Enjoy!

A DuBois man will stand trial for allegedly pulling a gun on a driver and his children in DuBois July 11.

Scott V. Moldenhauer, 43, 12 Murtland Ave., DuBois, is charged with three counts of assault, making terroristic threats, three counts of recklessly endangering another person, four counts of disorderly conduct and four counts of harassment.

After a preliminary hearing Friday, District Judge Patrick Ford ruled that sufficient evidence exists to send the charges to the Clearfield County Court of Common Pleas for further disposition. Additional charges of terroristic threats, harassment and disorderly conduct were dismissed. He is free on $10,000, unsecured bail.

The first witness was the driver, Timothy Runyon, 38, DuBois, who was driving with his two children when he made a turn onto Spring Avenue from Main Street.

It is a narrow street, he said, and when he saw another car coming up the street, he said the driver threw his arms up in the air. He backed up to let him pass. As the car approached, the driver, identified as Moldenhauer, rolled down his window. Runyon did also and the two exchanged “words” before Moldenhauer pulled a gun and pointed it “right at me,” then asked “do you have a problem now?”

Read More: http://www.thecourierexpress.com/news/local/article_8fe1bd92-0e46-11e3-a78a-001a4bcf887a.html

[NYC_SKP]

44. If you want to hijack this thread, do it on your own. I've got a better idea:

I've started a new thread for you in the appropriate place, so that madinmaryland can have her thread back and other members don't have to be witness to these shenanigans.

Here you go: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172130766

Have a donut.

[Electric Monk]

46. The attempted derailing of this thread started much earlier. See post #28 (yours). nt

[madinmaryland]

50. Typical of an NRA'er.

[madinmaryland]

47. Two things, NYC: First, Robb did not hijack this thread, it was those who were worried about

the date of the article, and secondly, I am a male and have never requested to be referred to as a female.

[NYC_SKP]

56. I'm sorry...

I'm sorry I referred to you as a female.

However, Robb did in fact hijack the thread with his attempt at a divisive personal insult here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3538842

It was in reply to my bringing to your attention the date of the event, a reply that is not a derailment but a clarification. IMO it's not OK to post old news as if it happened yesterday.

I've been kind to you, I was just pointing out the date and I am sure it was an oversight.

As to the topic, yes douchebags with guns, really stupid things that they do, absolutely, I agree. Last year, this year, really stupid all around.

Sorry for the drama.

[Robb]

60. By way of apology

You should start another passive-aggressive thread in the Gungeon.

Maybe misbehave enough to where admin can be forced to re-write the software again to prevent another one of your episodes.

"Sorry for the drama." Hey, just don't shoot anybody, OK?

[madinmaryland]

61. My friend, the date of the event is completely irrelevant to the issue, as you should well know.

Robb, like myself, realizes that.

[madinmaryland]

43. Rather than debate the issue of the douchebag and easy availability of guns to douchebags,

you prefer to obfuscate the issue with when the actual incident happened.

[Curmudgeoness]

30. I am sure this guy thinks he is one of the good guys with a gun

who will protect the world from that bad guy with a gun.

[RetroLounge]

33. He sounds like a truly responsible gun owner

RL

[Skittles]

35. racist, paranoid gun humper

*yawn*

[perdita9]

37. How is this a misdemeanor?

This guy's guns need to be confiscated and his butt needs to be in jail.

[randr]

39. People who display the stars and stripes are all

born losers. They are proud of a heritage that dismissed our great nation and payed a price for attempting to declare themselves "Un-united".
Love it or leave it as the saying goes.

[MineralMan]

40. Why are you postig something from

some blog from 2012? That is what I wonder.

[madinmaryland]

42. Sorry about the blog, below is the link to a news organization...

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/10/va-beach-students-say-man-aimed-gun-them

Why did I post it?? Because it is still relevant, and the gun nutters need to be kept on the run, regardless of when the story was from.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

41. 2 mistakes.

[muntrv]

45. A bunch of grade schoolers mocking stars and bars? Smart little ones.

[Historic NY]

48. The kids recognized it and him as being a loser.

[Iggo]

52. Pointing a gun at children is a misdemeanor?

Oooh, them's some tough gun laws ya got there, Virginia Beach.

[ileus]

53. good people that fly that shitty flag need made fun of.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

54. Mark it a zero, dude!

[gopiscrap]

55. Jesus Christ that's four school gun incidents in the past

6 days of classes. This country is so enamored with it's fucking guns!

[NYC_SKP]

57. Check the date of the article, it didn't happen this week or even this month. It happened LAST YEAR.

Ah well!

[madinmaryland]

62. You seem WAY more concerned about the date of the article, rather than the actual event.

Sad, very sad.

[NYC_SKP]

64. What is there to say? It happened last year, he was arrested and then released.

I couldn't find any news of the outcome, I tried, it would have been nice to bring a fresh angle to the old story.

It was a really stupid person and event, obviously an out of control lost soul, dangerous and stupid.

What more can one say?

Do you have any idea if he was convicted, fined, did they take away his guns (I hope).

I don't know.

[Bazinga]

66. gopiscrap's response indicates exactly why the date is important.

I have no issue with pointing out gun idiocy, even old gun idiocy. This guy deserves the ridicule months, years, and decades later. He's an idiot, and you have received nothing but agreement on that point in this entire thread.

However, to post a thread whose first sentence includes "yesterday" with no indication that it actually happened a year ago is misleading, even if it is relevant.

[Marr]

58. That's odd. Violent racists are usually labelled "boys" or "young men" well into their 20's. /nt

[47of74]

59. God

Another law abiding, responsible gun owner.

I'd hate to see what these douchebags consider to be a law breaking, irresponsible gun owner.

[MrScorpio]

63. Dumbass doesn't even know that Confederate flags really aren't all that popular in Virginia

Which is why the kids were making fun of it.

[freshwest]

65. PHOTO:

Why do these guys always look like they've been hit in the head with a 2X4?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

69. 18 years old?

He's about two bumps of meth and a carton of cigarettes away from 50.

[shenmue]

68. He needs to spend some time

Under a jail.