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Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:11 PM Feb 2012

Santorum: ‘I Don’t Believe In An America Where The Separation Between Church And State Is Absolute’

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/02/26/432573/santorum-i-dont-believe-in-an-america-where-the-separation-between-church-and-state-is-absolute/


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So Ricky is saying he doesn't believe in the First Amendment AND if that is the case which other parts of our consititution. For that matter can someone TRULY take an oath to defend our Constitution IF they do not believe in part of that.
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Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
3. I posted this excerpt from President US Grant's as a reply to santorium.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:21 PM
Feb 2012

Ulysses S. Grant (State of the Union address) to the Congress, December 7, 1875:

First. That the States shall be required to afford the opportunity of a good common-school education to every child within their limits.

Second. No sectarian tenets shall ever be taught in any school supported in whole or in part by the State, nation, or by the proceeds of any tax levied upon any community. Make education compulsory so far as to deprive all persons who can not read and write from becoming voters after the year 1890, disfranchising none, however, on grounds of illiteracy who may be voters at the time this amendment takes effect.

Third. Declare church and state forever separate and distinct, but each free within their proper spheres; and that all church property SHALL bear its own proportion of Taxation (A Compilation of the Messages and Papers of the Presidents. Vol. X. New York: Bureau of National Literature, Inc., 1897, p. 4310)


http://www.theology.edu/journal/volume2/ushistor.htm

I found this earlier and used it on a HP post.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
5. He was truly frightening today
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:25 PM
Feb 2012

He should frighten the rest of America as well.

And, he played it as if religious leader and people of faith are outright denied any access to debate or holding public office. It's laughable. Politicians, even Democrats, are always trumpeting their religious beliefs and discussing how it influences them. Point to me the atheists who are in office proudly declaring their non belief.

I guess to him that access to the public square means they are denied the ability to impose their faith and values on people with other beliefs or no belief at all. I wonder how he would feel if the Romney the Mormon was running things or if Obama really was a Muslim.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
6. People who hate America probably shouldn't bother running for President.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:25 PM
Feb 2012

Santorum doesn't even know what America is.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
7. Rick just makes stuff up so he can say that speration between church and state ...
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:29 PM
Feb 2012

..... was not in the founders vision even though that is exactly what they
had in mind when the wrote the Constitution.

Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which
declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting
the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
12. Well, little Ricky, this liberal Christian does not
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:55 PM
Feb 2012

and cannot believe in an America where you're President.

And yes, asshole, we DO exist, despite your know-it-all claim otherwise.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
14. Well in a way he's right, why should it be, when no other Amendment is absolute?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:56 AM
Feb 2012

I'm fine with a ban on yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater, fine with banning fully automatic machine guns for 12 year olds, and fine with owning robots, which technically violates the ban on slavery. I'm also fine with allowing "In God We Trust" on currency, and fine with "One Nation Under God" on the Pledge of Allegiance. Every Amendment has its limits.

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