Robert Parry's Eye Opener: A CIA Hand in an American “Coup”?

[kpete]

A CIA Hand in an American “Coup”?
by Robert Parry | August 27, 2013 - 6:31am



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The apparent 1980 plot to undermine Carter by sabotaging his negotiations with Iran over the fate of 52 American hostages would have been pulled off by rogue CIA officers collaborating with the Republican presidential campaign of Ronald Reagan (and his running mate George H.W. Bush), without the knowledge of Carter and CIA Director Stansfield Turner.

It would have been the work of what legendary CIA officer Miles Copeland described to me as “the CIA within the CIA,” the inner-most circle of powerful intelligence figures who felt they understood the strategic needs of the United States better than its elected leaders. These national security insiders believed Carter’s starry-eyed faith in American democratic ideals represented a grave threat to the nation.

“Carter really believed in all the principles that we talk about in the West,” Copeland told me in an interview in 1990, several months before his death. “As smart as Carter is, he did believe in Mom, apple pie and the corner drug store. And those things that are good in America are good everywhere else. …

“Carter, I say, was not a stupid man.” But in Copeland’s view, Carter had an even worse flaw: “He was a principled man.”

Copeland was one of the CIA officers who participated in the 1953 coup against Mossadegh, but he said he and other old CIA Iran hands were mostly on the outside looking in when Carter was targeted in 1980.

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(This is ONE AMAZING Eye Opener-long, so I think you need to read the whole thing, for a better understanding of the CIA)
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/robert-parry/51279/a-cia-hand-in-an-american-coup

[AnotherMcIntosh]

1. The CIA ties to assassinations caused Congress in 1976 to authorized (by 280 to 65 vote)

the creation of the U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA).

In 1978, HSCA released its final report which found, among other things,

"2.Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy."
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"3.The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.
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"4. ... The investigation into the possibility of conspiracy in the assassination was inadequate.
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"5. The Department of Justice failed to exercise initiative in supervising and directing the investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of the assassination.
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"c. The Federal Bureau of Investigation failed to investigate adequately the possibility of a conspiracy to assassinate the President.

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"8 b.The Warren Commission failed to investigate adequately the possibility of a conspiracy to assassinate the President. ...
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http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/select-committee-report/summary.html

The CIA has been in the business of overturning governments. We will never know the extent to which rogue agents from any agency of this country or foreign countries may have been involved in the JFK assignation. The Warren Commission sufficiently quashed a further investigation at the time. What we do know is that the physical evidence is inconsistent with the lone-gunman assertion, that our own governmental agencies did not look further, and that the MSM often denigrated those who asked at the time for a more through investigation as being conspiracy theorists. For more information about the CIA's connection with the MSM, Google Operation Mockingbird. They say that Operation Mockingbird has been discontinued.

(cross-posted at http://www.democraticunderground.com/101672072)

[villager]

7. +1

n/t

[UTUSN]

2. R#5 & K n/t

[G_j]

3. K & R

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Robert Parry

[blm]

4. When the point is made that being president doesn't mean you control CIA, some here

think it sounded like 'conspiracy' theory.

I don't think any president has controlled the CIA fully since the 70s. Except for ONE.

[1-Old-Man]

19. No President may have had control, but any President could quash the Agency

I might be convinced to agree with you that no President has had control of the CIA but at the same time I believe that any President could control the Agency in a heartbeat if he or she cared to. And you might not think that's possible but here is all that need be done. The President could hold a Press Conference at which he could announce the resignations of any and all employees he chose to, and the next morning they would be looking for a job. The only alternative they would have to being tossed out into the streets is outright revolution and they simply do not have any way at all to make that successful.

So in the end we can not lay the blame for our out of control intelligence community. The blame can only be placed on a series of Presidents who have not kept it in its place.

[Generic Other]

20. Cared or dared?

They have ways of making even a president back off.

[Recursion]

5. Still funny to me how none of the leaks this summer are about the CIA

Just sayin'

[wildbilln864]

6. k&r! /t

[hootinholler]

8. Of course they did

And the rescue mission was goat-fucked from the git. Carter was fragged.

[rwsanders]

12. I only remember one political comment from my father...

He was a computer programmer and was considered tops by IBM.
He had an eye for detail and once when I was young and bought a motorcycle, he was comparing a couple of cruising bikes and noted 5 major safety flaws in one of them.
Just to say, after the news came on about the failed rescue mission, he was stunned and said, "they sacrificed 8 of their own to make the president look bad".
I'll never forget that.

[sinkingfeeling]

9. Carter may well have been our last 'principled man' in the White House.

[sabrina 1]

10. I think it's been obvious for a long time that people of principle will never

make it here. Unless by some miracle, which it would taken at this point, where we manage to begin the process of restoring the rule of law.

But they do still fear people of principle, which is why we see the smear campaigns rolled out each time one of them manages to get the public's attention.

Parry is one of our best journalists, another we won't see on the Corporate Media.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Lee Hamilton would've made a great professional wrestling referee.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[riverbendviewgal]

13. Eye opener show last night on HBO (in Canada)

http://www.hbocanada.com/strikeback/episodes.php

Season 3 Episode 2...

Talk about CIA in CIA...Wow!
I love that show....be warned it s violent and it really seems to show reality.

also I always thought Jimmy Carter was a great president . He was sabotaged. He was a very principled man.

Reagan was the puppet of the MIC...

[kelliekat44]

14. They are still in operation. nt

[Ocelot]

15. Does anyone remember when Obama's plane almost crash-landed in 2008?

His campaign plane suddenly started dropping because an evacuation slide mysteriously inflated inside. An emergency landing was made but no anomalies were found. Only article I can find on it now is from the Daily Beast, but it was throughout the news at the time:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2009/07/11/obama-campaign-plane-almost-crashed.html

And the Bush "pretzel incident".. in the early part of his first term Shrub suddenly appeared looking like someone had smacked him around good. He said it was from choking on a pretzel, which seemed as dumb, unlikely and incongruous as all the lies he normally told:



No one, even Chimpy, would get those kind of injuries from choking on a pretzel and falling off a couch.

And who knows what else has transpired outside the scrutiny of the media. Following these curious events I've wondered if there are people/agencies with the kind of power to do these things and get away with it? Qualifier: I don't have a "conspiracy theory", it's just a point of curiosity.

[Enthusiast]

16. Iran-Contra was treason.

They interfered with a US presidential election as if it was one of their private banana republics, the ones George H W Bush was so fond of meddling in. Interfering with elections was old hat to these people.

[CanSocDem]

17. Slowly but surely.....

...the truth about who governs your country, comes out. Better late than never. There are many around here who saw the BFEE fingerprints on the Reagan nomination, the appointment of HWBush as VP and the subsequent election of Reagan, as no surprise.

No surprise, just an astonished gasp at their audacity.

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[JDPriestly]

18. Reagan and the two Bushes were phonies.

They couldn't run fairly. They couldn't win in an honest way. So they tricked the nation.

And Republicans have been tricking the nation ever since.

Or at least trying.

I am suspicious about the Syrian deal.

I don't think we have sufficient evidence that the Syrian government was behind it. Everything we have is circumstantial.

Have the UN inspectors found any of the material, the debris that might indicate how and by what the chemical weapons were delivered?

A lot more facts are needed.

[Laelth]

21. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

22. K&R nt