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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:48 PM Aug 2013

Stocks Are Getting Demolished

The global market sell-off is getting a whole lot worse.

The Dow is down 180 points. The Nasdaq is down 83 points, which translates to a 2.2% loss on the day.

The biggest losers today include chip companies AMD and Micron Technology, which are down 5% and 4%, respectively.

All of this comes as tensions heat up in Syria.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nasdaq-stocks-tanking-2013-8
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Stocks Are Getting Demolished (Original Post) FarCenter Aug 2013 OP
Why people still mess around with stocks, I'll never know... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #1
One reason people still mess around with stocks is that savings accounts pay 0% HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #5
Part of the great war on the middle class edhopper Aug 2013 #14
There are several reasons why savings accounts and bonds do not HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #16
Don't underestimate edhopper Aug 2013 #19
Just getting started.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #2
Well, hell, I'm sittin' on some cash. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2013 #3
IIRC, the sentiment was first uttered by the Baron Rothschild who said (paraphrasing) to buy when HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #7
. . .and to buy when the blood is running in the streets. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2013 #10
I've been better this time around. Every time the market goes up 1%, I pull 1% into cash. denverbill Aug 2013 #18
Dow is down a little over 1% Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #4
Hear, hear! Thanks for some math sanity :) - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #9
it's not even down hfojvt Aug 2013 #15
C'mon, you are using facts again. That won't go over well. FSogol Aug 2013 #17
Its easy Syria and Summers nt daa Aug 2013 #6
I am out PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #8
exactly correct.. the 1% needs everyone ELSE in the market, so they can make... DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #11
A noble goal. I hope you succeed. My thoughts have been trending in that direction since 2001 but HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #13
it's all meaningless and irrelevent to the vast majority of Americans, its not even a good indicator bowens43 Aug 2013 #12
 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
5. One reason people still mess around with stocks is that savings accounts pay 0%
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:55 PM
Aug 2013

and 10-year bonds aren't much better (about 2.75%). In other words, the risk-free and low-risk alternatives don't even return enough to keep up with inflation. So if you have your savings in a savings account, it is losing about 2% purchasing power per year, given a 2% inflation rate and 0% interest paid.

edhopper

(33,491 posts)
14. Part of the great war on the middle class
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:03 PM
Aug 2013

steal your savings or force you to invest in the fixed casino that is Wall Street.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
16. There are several reasons why savings accounts and bonds do not
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:07 PM
Aug 2013

return enough to even keep up with inflation, but the main reason (imho) is that global demand is so depressed that businesses do not need to borrow any money to finance the operation and expansion of their stagnant operations. Easier to increase profits by cutting wages and benefits than by trying to sell goods and services to a market without the wherewithal to purchase them. When demand for money is weak, interest rates will decline to near nothing, as has been the case since 2008.

edhopper

(33,491 posts)
19. Don't underestimate
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:01 PM
Aug 2013

all the free money Bernake has been given out to Corporate America for the last 5 years.

DinahMoeHum

(21,779 posts)
3. Well, hell, I'm sittin' on some cash. . .
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:54 PM
Aug 2013

. . .and if/when things really get bad, I'll jump right in.

As followers of Warren Buffett and John Templeton have said though the decades: you have to be greedy when others are fearful, and you have to be fearful when others are greedy.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
7. IIRC, the sentiment was first uttered by the Baron Rothschild who said (paraphrasing) to buy when
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:57 PM
Aug 2013

others are selling and sell when others are buying.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
18. I've been better this time around. Every time the market goes up 1%, I pull 1% into cash.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:22 PM
Aug 2013

And vice versa.

I didn't do that during the Bush stock bubble/collapse.

It's nice to always have some cash on the sidelines and buy when prices are low.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
15. it's not even down
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:06 PM
Aug 2013

if you look at it compared to last year.

Last year it was at 13,200 now it is at 14,800.

However, last month it was at 15,600 so it has taken a fair beating, but that beating down comes after a surge up. So it is not a loss even compared to four months ago.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
8. I am out
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:57 PM
Aug 2013

Been out of the stock market for a while.

Why should I play the game of the 1%? I can not win. It is their ponzi scheme to control. I am going to drop out further and further from "capitalist" society as my world allows.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
13. A noble goal. I hope you succeed. My thoughts have been trending in that direction since 2001 but
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:03 PM
Aug 2013

I haven't yet bit the bullet and gone 'all in' on dropping out. Thought about doing it with Occupy Los Angeles and am glad now I decided not to.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
12. it's all meaningless and irrelevent to the vast majority of Americans, its not even a good indicator
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:02 PM
Aug 2013
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