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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPat Robertson: Gay people will cut you and give you AIDS with special rings
Does this man issue his fatwas from a padded cell????
You know what they do in San Francisco, Robertson told co-host Terry Meeuwsen Some in the gay community there, they want to get people so if they got the stuff theyll have a ring, you shake hands, and the rings got a little thing where you cut your finger. Really. Its that kind of vicious stuff, which would be the equivalent of murder.
Right Wing Watch, which posted video of the statement on YouTube, reported that the remark was apparently edited out by the Christian Broadcast Network before it posted Tuesdays full episode online.
In answering a viewers question whether her church should have informed her she was providing driving services for an AIDS patient to attend mass, Robertson also said there were now draconian laws on the books forbidding even discussing the disease.
You can tell somebody you had a heart attack, you can tell them theyve got high blood pressure, he lamented. But you cant tell anybody youve got AIDS.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/27/pat-robertson-gay-people-will-cut-you-and-give-you-aids-with-special-rings/
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)I honestly believe that Robertson is suffering from some serious mental dysfunction, such as Alzheimer's or an age-related lapse into senility.
Given his exalted status (undeserved though it may be), I think his true-believer followers, including those on his staff, have convinced themselves that his mad ravings are a manifestation of spiritual awareness, along with a special insight into "the truth" as endowed by god.
The fact that his true-believer followers can't distinguish between the word of their god, and a man exhibiting symptoms of dementia, speaks for itself.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 28, 2013, 02:17 AM - Edit history (1)
The video got taken down.
The dementia diagnosis would sound reasonable if he hadn't exhibited signs of mental instability decades ago.
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)between 'then' and 'now'.
He's always been a crazy-assed religious fanatic, yes. But for the past few years, his ravings have become more demonstrative of paranoia and a persecution complex.
In his earlier days, he would try to establish some link between reality and Biblical belief. He would try to 'twist the facts' to support whatever nonsense he was spewing. But of late, he is simply manufacturing his own facts, and seems to be unaware that he's doing so - because, in his mind, they ARE facts.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)when he accused feminists of murdering their husbands and children and becoming witches. Everything after that just seemed pretty crazy to me.
But I will accept your assessment of his current state. Don't fundies have retirement homes for pastors with bats in the belfry?
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)There was a time when he would never had said that. He used to be quite cautious in his sermonizing, making sure he had some facts (which he had twisted beyond recognition in order to make them comply) to underpin his comments.
Nowadays he doesn't even try to 'twist' facts - as I said, he just fabricates them and goes from there.
I'm not saying this happened overnight; I think it's been a slow, long slip into madness. But I think he's at the point now where dementia has overtaken what was once simply a sales pitch.
He used to sell a Christian perspective of reality. Now he's selling an alternate reality.
As I said, given his status among RW "Christians", his ravings are being accepted as prophetic and spiritually-driven, rather than being seen for what they are - the result of a breakdown of his mental capacities.
That, in and of itself, is quite alarming.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Variants of this story. An urban legend forever circling in emails among the rural fundies.
These rings sound pretty demonic, but Robertson is not the only lunatic.
I discovered this:
Pin prick attack: A pin prick attack is a hypothetical assault on another person with a needle or syringe tainted with the blood of somebody carrying a blood-borne disease, such as HIV.
Although fanciful tales of so-called 'needle men' or white slavers who supposedly injected unsuspecting young girls with morphine then carrying them away into a life of prostitution had been around since the 1930s the legend probably has its roots in a 1989 incident where ten teenage girls were arrested and later charged with stabbing numerous women with pins in the Upper West Side area of New York.[1] Coming near the height of the 1980s HIV scares this led to a great deal of panic amongst the local community although health officials were keen to stress that the chances of anybody contracting the virus in this way were practically zero and nobody affected in the attacks subsequently tested positive for HIV.
The ascension of the internet in the 1990s led to the rise of numerous Urban Legends concerning the pin prick attack which could be quickly spread via email and discussion forums which soon assumed a standardised form. The email would take the form of a warning to others that a young person had been visiting a cinema or a night club when they felt a slight prick on their arm. Not taking any notice they would carry on with their leisure activity and it was only later that they would find stuck to their clothes or in their pocket a badge or sticker carrying the slogan 'welcome to the AIDS club' followed a few months later with a positive HIV test.[2] These rumours bear similarities to the so-called AIDS Mary legends of the 1980s whereby a man would enjoy a one night stand with a stranger at his house and awaken the next morning to find the stranger gone and the words 'Welcome to the AIDS Club' written in red lipstick on his bathroom mirror.[3] However the American Center for Disease Control has stressed on numerous occasions that it has yet to confirm a single case of HIV as being transmitted in this fashion and have dismissed such emails as a hoax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_prick_attack
So apparently Rev. Althiemer is not even original. They are all quivering in fear that someone will infect them. I guess I know now why zombie movies resonate with fundies
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What a stupid man Robertson is. And a ridiculous new addition to the old urban legends. No wonder they took down the Youtube video! Next week, I expect he'll be waving a gun at reporters from his front porch!
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)from his front porch, his followers will swear it's an admonition from god to "keepeth thine enemies from offeth thy lawn."
All I could think of when I saw the story about being surreptituously injected with HIV was Snake Plisskin being injected with a fatal virus in the opening scenes of "Escape from L.A.".
Maybe Robertson's handlers should monitor the Rev's Netflix choices a little more closely.
GReedDiamond
(5,311 posts)...you should have stopped there, because Rev Pat has been saying crazy-ass shit ever since I've been aware of him, in the early 1980s.
I do not think it is Alzheimer's or anything like that, because of his advanced age - that's just the way he is, and always has been, amen.
sigmasix
(794 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Stay the HELL out of San Francisco... We don't want you here, ever. And....go Peddle your garbage some where else.
[font color="red" size="6" face="face"]Baka! Doji! Manuke! [/font]
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)I have used and posted that song many times! Good work!
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I've never heard of any AIDS spreading ring before.
(Do I need to add a sarcasm tag here?)
I call bullshit. Robertson's screws are no longer just loose. They have worked their way completely out. That man is warped...and he's full of shit.