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In the last 60 years, how many US military actions have turned out well? (Original Post) XemaSab Aug 2013 OP
for MIC profit$ they have all turned out well msongs Aug 2013 #1
If a person reflexively opposed all military interventions -they would be right 80% of the time and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #2
does capturing Osama count ? JI7 Aug 2013 #3
Korea, and Bosnia. denbot Aug 2013 #4
We still have a divided Korea! B Calm Aug 2013 #13
But that is better than all of Korea being united under the Kims. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #21
At what cost to us tax payers? B Calm Aug 2013 #22
If you count all the humanitarian missions such as the one in Haiti there would be quite a few Major Nikon Aug 2013 #5
Disaster relief missions are NOT military strikes. Period. Not close. Not related. cali Aug 2013 #6
If that was what the OP asked, you might have something Major Nikon Aug 2013 #7
If the US had intervened in Rwanda to try to stop the genocide, maybe that one... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #8
We're a warlike people... Fearless Aug 2013 #9
Zero. David__77 Aug 2013 #10
Agree with your point, but how can you say WWII was against racism considering the way the US raccoon Aug 2013 #19
Yeah, the view of WWII as some holy crusade against evil is just revisionism NuclearDem Aug 2013 #20
I disagree about Bosnia and Kosovo Old Union Guy Aug 2013 #11
I am not sure how you qualify US military actions, or Downwinder Aug 2013 #12
I thought the Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #14
What about Grenada? treestar Aug 2013 #15
The effort to take extremly complex issues and boil them down into black and white JoePhilly Aug 2013 #16
I agree, are they thinking of the consequences of never doing anything? treestar Aug 2013 #17
Very good point. nt JoePhilly Aug 2013 #18

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
2. If a person reflexively opposed all military interventions -they would be right 80% of the time and
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:33 AM
Aug 2013

wrong 20% of the time. If a person reflexively supported all military intervention - they would be wrong 80% of the time and right 20% of the time.

Of course one does not have to be reflexive in supporting or opposing military actions. They should look at each case very carefully, thoughtfully and individually. But if one was to be reflexive - it is clear that it is a safer bet to reflex against war than for it.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
4. Korea, and Bosnia.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:43 AM
Aug 2013

Our involvement with NATO (hell at first we were NATO), we as a nation have acted in the common good.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
5. If you count all the humanitarian missions such as the one in Haiti there would be quite a few
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:01 AM
Aug 2013

You also have the massive tsunami and the Kashmir earthquake disaster relief. All of that is just in the last 10 years.

Violet_Crumble

(35,956 posts)
8. If the US had intervened in Rwanda to try to stop the genocide, maybe that one...
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:29 AM
Aug 2013

But they didn't, so I can't think of any off the top of my head...

David__77

(23,337 posts)
10. Zero.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:13 AM
Aug 2013

WW2 was the last one, and it involved a titanic struggle for human progress, for national sovereignty, against imperialism and racism. Since then, there has been nothing so lofty at all - not even close. Lots of people killed, lives destroyed.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
19. Agree with your point, but how can you say WWII was against racism considering the way the US
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 08:29 AM
Aug 2013

locked up Japanese-Americans, and in general demonized Japanese people?


 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
20. Yeah, the view of WWII as some holy crusade against evil is just revisionism
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 08:32 AM
Aug 2013

It was a response to Axis aggression, not genocide.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
12. I am not sure how you qualify US military actions, or
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 06:09 AM
Aug 2013

quantify well.

Does shooting up a hospital or a dormitory count?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. What about Grenada?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:17 AM
Aug 2013

LOL. But you'd have to define "well" and argue that since it arguably never does any good, it shouldn't ever be tried again, no matter what the consequences. We don't know what would have happened had we stayed out of all the ones you are saying did not turn out well.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
16. The effort to take extremly complex issues and boil them down into black and white
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:27 AM
Aug 2013

is the problem DU is currently suffering from on this topic, and many others.

The calls to do nothing, to my ears, seem to reflect a "dear in headlights" kind of sensibility.

I don't know what the best answer is, but I'm not sure standing still and doing nothing is better than other responses as some seem to be arguing.

And the claims that all military action is the absolute worst path, "because well, you know, its bad" ... ring hollow.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. I agree, are they thinking of the consequences of never doing anything?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:29 AM
Aug 2013

War is terrible, but other countries will start them.

Plus there is the black and white thinking of just thinking about it is the equivalent of doing it.

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