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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 08:43 AM Aug 2013

Do Liberals Deserve Larry Summers as Fed Chair?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/do-liberals-deserve-larry-summers-as-fed-chair/279072/


The Tea Party shows that the right wing understands the game: If you want policy outcomes, you've got to throw your weight around. Progressives don't get it.


The conventional wisdom in the political class is that Tea Party-inspired primary challenges of recent years have had decidedly mixed success. Sure, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee have beaten sitting senators and establishment-anointed candidates, changing the issue terrain and nature of debate in the Senate. But most Tea Party candidates imploded.

That view largely misses the point. Interest groups seeking more influence within their party should think more like class-action trial lawyers: While it would be great to beat the company, the real reason to fight is not to win a 43-cent check for every plaintiff but to change corporate behavior in a lasting way.

Seen this way, even widely mocked far-right challengers have had lasting impact. Although Senate nominees Christine O’Donnell (Delaware), Sharron Angle (Nevada), and Richard Mourdock (Indiana) lost, their primary wins over establishment candidates terrified some other senators, causing them to move right. Witness the pandering of Senate Republican leaders Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn since 2010 to their home-state counterparts Paul and Cruz. Even very marginal primary losers like Arizona’s J.D. Hayworth had an impact, temporarily moving John McCain to the right on key issues like immigration. (McCain, who appears unlikely to seek reelection in 2016, has since shifted back.)

When tough votes arise, many Republican senators can’t help but consider ex-Senators Dick Lugar of Indiana and Robert Bennett of Utah -- both unceremoniously booted in primaries -- which usually leads to appeasement of the Tea Party. That’s the nature of politics. As congressional scholar Gary Jacobson has documented, politicians run scared, altering their behavior in anticipation of future challenges. That’s why it is helpful, but not necessary, for interest groups seeking power within a party to get a scalp.
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BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
3. The Tea Party has wrecked the GOP as a national party,
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:10 AM
Aug 2013

driven Congressional approval ratings to record lows and blown slam dunk elections such as the IN and MO Senate races. They are an unqualified style and substance disaster.

On the positive side, most progressive policies have strong public support. But using Tea Party tactics...forget it. It's not only a loser, it requires a culture (think of all the people here who scream about imagined, let alone real, authoritarianism) that is not appealing to most Democrats nor most voters.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. Except they are driving the national agenda
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:22 AM
Aug 2013

We shall see if voters punish them in 2014 for it. I am not holding my breath.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
5. have they? really?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:58 AM
Aug 2013

b/c we're not seeing that out "on the ground." instead we're seeing whole states taken over (FL, WI, NC) and gerrymandered to the point that it won't matter. they can run stuffed bunnies for office and they'll win.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
8. Let's talk past each other why don't we?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:18 AM
Aug 2013

I said "national party." They are pursuing a destructive path on any number of huge issues that will keep them out of the WH at the very least and deny them real congressional legislative achievements until they either grow up or move on. Unless, if course, we emulate their tactics from the left.

dawg

(10,622 posts)
9. Gridlock *is* a legislative achievement for them.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:20 AM
Aug 2013

Shutting down government is kind of their reason to be.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
11. Except they haven't shut down the government, Boehner's OH numbers have gone south of 20 percent
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:26 AM
Aug 2013

probably because the Right thinks he's a sellout, 40 votes to repeal Obamacare have yielded nothing and Marco Rubio had his nuts cut off for being a good soldier on immigration, after which he threatened to shut down the gov't if Obama funds his own Supreme Court-certified health care law (which the few sober people left like Michael Steele calls "suicidal.&quot

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
7. No, they didn't. They beat up the leadership pretty good and have gained considerable influence
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:09 AM
Aug 2013

over the direction that party is taking. The fact that they are completely stupid and insane (and I do mean that literally), is irrelevant.

For a very long time now, the Democratic leadership has relied on being not republican while they've imposed their corporate agenda on us. That's not going to work for them very much longer.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
6. The Tea Party can "throw their weight around" because of Koch money
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:02 AM
Aug 2013

Those of us who oppose the Third Way agenda don't have anyone like that. That's the difference.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. It's not that Liberals don't get it. It's the Party leadership works for the Have-Mores, too.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:25 AM
Aug 2013

How many petitions have Liberals and Progressive Democrats signed? How many millions of letters and phone calls have they made to Congress and the White House on fiscal and monetary policy? And what happens?

They get the circular file and the rich get richer. Thanks to Corporate McPravda, the only ones on the tee vee during election seasons are the most conservatives of Democrat.

And We the People get the likes of Larry Summers, Jack Lew and Penny Pritzker.

Like their Wall Street GOP War Party counterparts, Masters of Trickle Down, all.

Sorry to sound so negative, xchrom. I'm in Detroit and things are looking a lot like fascism.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
12. One thing for certain.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:09 AM
Aug 2013

Doing the same thing over and over with disappointing results won't help. Time to change up.

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