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blm

(113,015 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:54 AM Aug 2013

When Republicans claim the racist/racebaiting 'Southern Strategy' never happened

Take them on a trip down memory lane, courtesy of the Republican Party's most feted, and most revered campaign strategist, Lee Atwater.

Voting Rights Act memory: The majority of GOP strategist class saw political opportunity in the backlash against the Voting Rights Act and called it their Southern Strategy.

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn't have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."[8][9]


Post it wherever the GOP voter base roams.


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When Republicans claim the racist/racebaiting 'Southern Strategy' never happened (Original Post) blm Aug 2013 OP
Kicking up - blm Aug 2013 #1
and today it's "food stamp administration" and "makers and takers" rurallib Aug 2013 #2
Many GOP voters don't even realize they were part of a PLAN blm Aug 2013 #4
Bookmarked. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #3
Yep the Southern Strategy - the one that Republicans pretend never happened el_bryanto Aug 2013 #5
Radio talkers claimed it never happened, even after Mehlman apologized blm Aug 2013 #8
I suppose they have to flatter their audiences el_bryanto Aug 2013 #11
They have to deny it - to admit to it in 2013 would be suicide. reformist2 Aug 2013 #27
You said that exactly right. blm Aug 2013 #29
I've seen it in my own family. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #6
Much the same in my Ohio family. blm Aug 2013 #9
The point should be made a lot more often! reformist2 Aug 2013 #30
Lee eventually died a horrific painful death from cancer... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #7
Atwater apologized for his deeds literally on his deathbed. But he apologized too late. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #21
Yup, when you're facing eternity it's tough not to regret all the evil joeybee12 Aug 2013 #25
The GOP ... "still racist after all these years" napkinz Aug 2013 #10
Next primary season, ask yourself why South Carolina follows Iowa and New Hampshire KamaAina Aug 2013 #12
I know - I just wanted to make it VERY REAL for those unaware. blm Aug 2013 #16
and that he used the word AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN napkinz Aug 2013 #18
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2013 #13
their universe doesn't include Operation Cyclone or El Mozote or the Phoenix Program MisterP Aug 2013 #14
Never happened? More like never stopped. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #15
Exactly. If anything it's gotten worse in so many ways. blm Aug 2013 #17
love this man's resolve ... napkinz Aug 2013 #19
That's one of my favorite Moral Monday pics. blm Aug 2013 #20
WOW! Blue Idaho Aug 2013 #22
kick napkinz Aug 2013 #23
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #24
and here you have it ... napkinz Aug 2013 #26
Repukes like to pretend all kinds of things that happened Rex Aug 2013 #28

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
2. and today it's "food stamp administration" and "makers and takers"
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:09 PM
Aug 2013

and anything that delegitimizes Obama such as the birthers.
the racist never quit.

blm

(113,015 posts)
4. Many GOP voters don't even realize they were part of a PLAN
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:21 PM
Aug 2013

to secure political power by GOP strategists who EXPECTED and COUNTED ON them to react as racists.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. Yep the Southern Strategy - the one that Republicans pretend never happened
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:23 PM
Aug 2013

It's baffling to me that something so clearly historically proven can be believed not to exist.

Bryant

blm

(113,015 posts)
8. Radio talkers claimed it never happened, even after Mehlman apologized
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:26 PM
Aug 2013

for the party's reliance on Southern Strategy in 2005.

So...GOP voter base trusts the words of the Rushes, the Becks, the Hannitys.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
11. I suppose they have to flatter their audiences
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:05 PM
Aug 2013

And it's not very flattering to say "You know after that civil rights act passed, Republicans really went after Southern Racists, making sure they knew they had a home in the Republican party." Not that many southern Republicans will openly admit that they are racist at this point even when they clearly are.

Bryant

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
27. They have to deny it - to admit to it in 2013 would be suicide.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:41 PM
Aug 2013

They have race-baited themselves into a corner.

LuvNewcastle

(16,835 posts)
6. I've seen it in my own family.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:23 PM
Aug 2013

When I was growing up, everybody who was into politics at all in my family were Democrats. They were all racists, pretty much, but they had a lot of liberal beliefs when it came to economics.

Then there was a period in the mid-1970's and early 80's when the younger ones identified with the GOP. The older ones stayed loyal to the Democratic Party and would not hear of voting Republican. As the older generation died out and the South became more Republican, their economic views changed, too. They became Reaganites and hated government intervention into the economy. They began to disparage the poor.

So the decline of the Democrats in the South really made things a lot worse. Not only did we have the racism to contend with, we had the new problems that go along with an economically RW government. The Southern Strategy has been a disaster for most of us. If the GOP hadn't given the racists a place to go and thrive, things might be very different here now.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
30. The point should be made a lot more often!
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
Aug 2013

It is so true, that people all over the country have shifted their positions on a whole range of issues just to suit the party that accommodates their racism (and other assorted bigotries.)
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
7. Lee eventually died a horrific painful death from cancer...
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:24 PM
Aug 2013

And I won't post what I'm thinking about that.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
21. Atwater apologized for his deeds literally on his deathbed. But he apologized too late.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:23 PM
Aug 2013

Atwater's near death apology should serve as a warning to racist republicans of today.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
25. Yup, when you're facing eternity it's tough not to regret all the evil
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:46 AM
Aug 2013

you've done...better if you apologize and then try to fix it...he did a sort of Homer Simpson, "Lisa, if Dady's wrong, I'll make a deathbed confession."

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
12. Next primary season, ask yourself why South Carolina follows Iowa and New Hampshire
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:20 PM
Aug 2013

Because SC native and vile racist Lee Atwater willed it so.

P.S. I always blank out the i's and e's with * when I use that quote.

blm

(113,015 posts)
16. I know - I just wanted to make it VERY REAL for those unaware.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:05 PM
Aug 2013

Sadly, I find there are many still unaware.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
18. and that he used the word AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:09 PM
Aug 2013

like one of those old vinyl records skipping from a scratch



Just a reminder, from last year's election:

[font size="4"]Obama Hate Text Messages Inspired By Lee Atwater[/font]





11/02/2012

WASHINGTON -- The man behind the company that blasted anti-gay, anti-Barack Obama text messages to voters in the Washington area this week said he learned at the feet of infamous Republican slash-and-burn political operative Lee Atwater.

The firm ccAdvertising confessed to being behind the blast of emailed text messages that showed up on phones Tuesday night saying things like " "Obama supports homosexuality and its radical social agenda" and “Obama believes killing children is a right until the umbilical cord is cut.”

Many of the texts went to registered Democrats, political operatives and journalists who are unlikely to be swayed. Some wound up reaching people perhaps inappropriately, such as the abortion message going to a 13-year-old girl, and the anti-gay message that went to a gay woman.

ccAdvertising President Gabe Joseph said the burst had the effect he intended, describing it in terms he learned from Atwater, the legendary GOP consultant behind the infamous 1988 Willie Horton ad.

"Sometimes we do things to cause a reaction," Joseph said, adding later, "I was raised in the school of politics of Reagan-Bush '84 under Lee Atwater, and one of the things he taught me is that you win elections when your opponents react to what you do." Atwater, who chaired the Republican National Committee for a time, died in 1991 at age 40.

read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/obama-hate-text-messages-lee-atwater_n_2067774.html





MisterP

(23,730 posts)
14. their universe doesn't include Operation Cyclone or El Mozote or the Phoenix Program
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:58 PM
Aug 2013

Giuliani forgot 9-11 and none of them can manage to remember that most "Red States" are "Taker" states (for the precise reason that Them Urbanites DON'T want to see them slide into poverty--even without 30s levels of activism http://www.georgetownbookshop.com/display.asp?cat=26)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
28. Repukes like to pretend all kinds of things that happened
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:47 PM
Aug 2013

never did! Then they like to pretend some things did indeed happen...when they never did and everyone else knows they are making shit up out of whole cloth.

In short, the GOP has a real image problem - everyone on the planet earth knows they are fucking liars and work against The People. Thank you Dick Cheney and George Bush for exposing your party for 8 years as one of the vilest on the planet! It worked!

Funny how people don't forget the bad things that happen to them, not even decades later!

Anyway...stay classy GOP!

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