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I did not vote for another war! (Original Post) Harmony Blue Aug 2013 OP
Me neither. n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #1
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #2
What did you vote for? tridim Aug 2013 #3
Hope and change of course! Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #4
So you vote not according to issues but slogans? Yes, politicians use slogans but they also have KittyWampus Aug 2013 #21
Yes, and right now I hope he changes his mind Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #23
I voted for Obama, but not his current policies. n/t RebelOne Aug 2013 #5
You knew Syria would gas their people 6 years after you voted for Obama? tridim Aug 2013 #24
I voted for 2007 Obama. obxhead Aug 2013 #7
Democrats, so we could end Bush's warmongering and domestic policies and hopefully sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #12
You voted for Obama in 2012? brooklynite Aug 2013 #13
What did you vote for? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #18
I don't believe I had the option to order from a memu... brooklynite Aug 2013 #20
What kind of steer manure is that? Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #30
Yup. Unfoturnately, that is not what avebury Aug 2013 #22
I voted for the smart guy, and that's exactly what I got. nt tridim Aug 2013 #25
Oh, relax. He's got a Nobel Peace Prize. progressoid Aug 2013 #6
Oy Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #9
Maybe they will release doves together with the bombs? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #26
You didn't intend to. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #8
I turned down the offer AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #10
You'll vote for whatever we TELL YOU to vote for! Maedhros Aug 2013 #11
But the oil industry depends on war even more than it depends on lack of public transportation. nt valerief Aug 2013 #14
I'm with you!! B Calm Aug 2013 #15
What is the difference? cjbgreen Aug 2013 #16
What, you didn't vote for people to use chemical weapons in Syria pnwmom Aug 2013 #17
I bet few of us expected this development. No more wars. Paper Roses Aug 2013 #19
Apparently you don't understand how the Democratic process works. randome Aug 2013 #27
Less people approve of this military action than approve of congress davidn3600 Aug 2013 #29
Obama is our representative. He should take into account public sentiment. randome Aug 2013 #31
Was there an election? How did I miss it? MineralMan Aug 2013 #28
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
21. So you vote not according to issues but slogans? Yes, politicians use slogans but they also have
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:39 PM
Aug 2013

policies.

Good to know your political behavior is on a fairly superficial level.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Democrats, so we could end Bush's warmongering and domestic policies and hopefully
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:23 PM
Aug 2013

get some accountability for the War Crimes that were committed, plus the deliberate lies that dragged this country into endless war and caused the deaths of over 6,000 of our troops and over a million Iraqis and drained our economy. Plus accountability for the Wall St. corruption that crashed the world's economies, destroying the lives of millions of people across the globe.

I despise the Bush agenda and what it did to this and other countries.

What did you vote for?

brooklynite

(94,327 posts)
13. You voted for Obama in 2012?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
Aug 2013

After he had engaged in military activity in Libya in response to civilian casualties?

So either you're a warmonger, or you simply don't care...OR you support the President's ability to make decisions on issues like this.

Which one?

brooklynite

(94,327 posts)
20. I don't believe I had the option to order from a memu...
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:37 PM
Aug 2013

I felt that I generally supported what Obama had accomplished and what he planned to do, and I thought he'd do far better than Romney.

I believe they call that "reality".

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
30. What kind of steer manure is that?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:48 PM
Aug 2013

If you want to set up a straw man like that, I'll be happy to burn it down.

I voted for Obama in 2012, too. It's not because I'm a warmonger. After believing, like Sabrina, that the federal government would become transparent and accountable after eight years of the Bush-Cheney junta, I voted to re-elect the President in spite of being very disappointed in the progress he's made in reversing what ails America.

Yes, I voted for Obama in 2012. I make no secret that I held my nose as I did. It's not my fault or Sabrina's that Obama had reduced himself to the lesser of two evils, but at least he succeeded at being better than Bush. Do you think that's an ambitious standard, Brooklynite? I said before the election that I was voting for Obama because, while the country was still in trouble after the damage done by the Bush junta and it wouldn't survive a Romney presidency; under Obama, America had a chance.

That chance looks very dim right now. Not all of it is Obama's doing. The obstinate reactionary Republican Party has a lot to do with it, too. The Democrats had enough crooked members on the Senate Banking Committee to keep a public option out of the Affordable Care Act. Nevertheless, no one made the President sign the Defense Authorization bill that gave him the power to circumvent due precess for American citizens; no one made the President continue the Bush policy of mass surveillance with a weak argument that his cosmetic changes to the process make it OK; no one made the President order drone strikes; and no one is keeping the President from firing his worthless Attorney General for prosecuting medical marijuana patients more aggressively than crooked Wall Street bankers or pursuing whistleblowers who inform the public of what the public has a right to know anyway more aggressively than Bush junta war criminals. However, Obama ended waterboarding, so at least he's better than the Bush junta.

An America that spies on its citizens and engages in imperial wars for natural resources in the Middle East is not the America I learned about in a high school civics class in 1969. An America that spies on its citizens and engages in imperial wars is not America.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
22. Yup. Unfoturnately, that is not what
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:41 PM
Aug 2013

we have received in return for our votes.

What is sad is that,no matter how much you hate the Republicans, they are pretty open about their intentions. Way too often, too many of the Democrats will campaign on selling you a bill of goods that time will show they never intended on following up on. Call me extremely skeptical going into the 2014 Midterms and 2016 Presidential elections.

I want the 2007 Obama back. Heck he can't run for re-election so why doesn't he just get right out there, draw a line in the sand, and beat the crap out of the otherside? I am ready to sit out the next election and possible the 2016 Presidential election. My vote needs to be earned, it will no longer be given away to the undeserving.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. You didn't intend to.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:59 PM
Aug 2013
- But any vote in this system is a vote for war. Because we're a war-based economy. Sorry.....

K&R

cjbgreen

(181 posts)
16. What is the difference?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:31 PM
Aug 2013

We kill children in our country and in the world by denying health care, poverty, drones, chemicals (BP disaster, Fracking, nuclear disasters, DDT), and illegal wars. So do other countries have the right to punish us? What about our violations of human rights and our total disregard of International Law?

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
17. What, you didn't vote for people to use chemical weapons in Syria
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:31 PM
Aug 2013

on children and other civilians?

Me neither.

P.S. I don't know what the correct response is to this situation. I'm just pointing out that nobody voted for another war but sometimes circumstances change and we have to decide the best way to respond to them.

Paper Roses

(7,471 posts)
19. I bet few of us expected this development. No more wars.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:36 PM
Aug 2013

I'm sick and tired of it. Been around since 1942 and seen so many wars, I have trouble even reading about it.
How many more lives and dollars are we expected to give for the rest of the world. I feel we need to care for our own.

Can someone tell me why we are the policeman of the rest of civilization?

We have people at hone in dire straits, need we find it necessary to police everyone else on the planet?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. Apparently you don't understand how the Democratic process works.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:13 PM
Aug 2013

You don't vote on people to do what you want them to do. You vote for people to make decisions in your name.

I can understand that you don't like this specific decision but every politician should make decisions based on current reality, not to please those who voted him/her into office.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
29. Less people approve of this military action than approve of congress
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:19 PM
Aug 2013

Polls are actually pretty amazing....Republicans and Democrats are actually agreeing on something yet the government does the opposite.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. Obama is our representative. He should take into account public sentiment.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:53 PM
Aug 2013

Be guided by it, even. He should not make his decisions solely on what the majority say he should do.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

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